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		<title>By: Stone Hardman</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>Stone Hardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 06:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just purchased a 12" PowerBook to replace a faulty 14" iBook that just *happened to be* out of warranty.  I have a 1.5Ghz G4, 64MB VRAM (+ Core Image) 512MB of RAM, 80Gb 5400 RPM HD, and a SuperDrive.  Uh...all I can say is this: the "feel" of this machine is 10x what the iBook was.  It is MUCH faster and is much more portable.  Add to that the fact that I'm going to soon be plugging it into a 20" cinema display you have a combination that you're not going to get from an iBook for what I paid for this little bad boy.  Frankly, I'll never go back to the iBook line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just purchased a 12&#8243; PowerBook to replace a faulty 14&#8243; iBook that just *happened to be* out of warranty.  I have a 1.5Ghz G4, 64MB VRAM (+ Core Image) 512MB of RAM, 80Gb 5400 RPM HD, and a SuperDrive.  Uh&#8230;all I can say is this: the &#8220;feel&#8221; of this machine is 10x what the iBook was.  It is MUCH faster and is much more portable.  Add to that the fact that I&#8217;m going to soon be plugging it into a 20&#8243; cinema display you have a combination that you&#8217;re not going to get from an iBook for what I paid for this little bad boy.  Frankly, I&#8217;ll never go back to the iBook line.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Terhorst</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Terhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember getting my iBook back, and they had included the CDs with the software that they had already put in. It's a firmware update, so they just run the CD, and that's it. The updater is what removed the hack. Usually, the techs will not do too much in terms of messing with your stuff... they don't care what you have on the computer or what you're doing. So, it wasn't the tech's intensions to get rid of the hack, it just happened as a side effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember getting my iBook back, and they had included the CDs with the software that they had already put in. It&#8217;s a firmware update, so they just run the CD, and that&#8217;s it. The updater is what removed the hack. Usually, the techs will not do too much in terms of messing with your stuff&#8230; they don&#8217;t care what you have on the computer or what you&#8217;re doing. So, it wasn&#8217;t the tech&#8217;s intensions to get rid of the hack, it just happened as a side effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I'm thinking when they updated the logic board that probably took out the firmware hack... Or so I think.. I still can't decide whether to install it or not again. I loved it, but don't want my computer to fry. But I hear what you're saying, that a lot of people who don't use the hack are having these problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I&#8217;m thinking when they updated the logic board that probably took out the firmware hack&#8230; Or so I think.. I still can&#8217;t decide whether to install it or not again. I loved it, but don&#8217;t want my computer to fry. But I hear what you&#8217;re saying, that a lot of people who don&#8217;t use the hack are having these problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Terhorst</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2870</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Terhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not so sure that it's the cause, since many people who aren't all that technically inclined are having the problem, and Apple wouldn't be offering the exchange program, or making the hack so easy if it was causing such severe issues.

However, it may be due to faulty video hardware in the first place, since graphics glitches are a big symptom of logic board failure. From what I understand, the hack doesn't cause the failures, but Apple doesn't like the hack too much (but they don't shut the sites down that host it), and it may just be marketing when each subsequent update disables it. (or the updaters are simply resetting the OF to defaults, which does disable the hack, and is a way to fix any problems that the hack causes)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that it&#8217;s the cause, since many people who aren&#8217;t all that technically inclined are having the problem, and Apple wouldn&#8217;t be offering the exchange program, or making the hack so easy if it was causing such severe issues.</p>
<p>However, it may be due to faulty video hardware in the first place, since graphics glitches are a big symptom of logic board failure. From what I understand, the hack doesn&#8217;t cause the failures, but Apple doesn&#8217;t like the hack too much (but they don&#8217;t shut the sites down that host it), and it may just be marketing when each subsequent update disables it. (or the updaters are simply resetting the OF to defaults, which does disable the hack, and is a way to fix any problems that the hack causes)</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2869</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 700 mhz G3 iBook, dual USB, just got it back from Apple for the logic board repair. I had the screen spanning hack and they turned it off. Before I install it again, I'm wondering if the rumors are true that the hack might have something to do with the logic board failure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 700 mhz G3 iBook, dual USB, just got it back from Apple for the logic board repair. I had the screen spanning hack and they turned it off. Before I install it again, I&#8217;m wondering if the rumors are true that the hack might have something to do with the logic board failure?</p>
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		<title>By: Rocco</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2852</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 04:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a 1Ghz G4PB 14 months ago, and I love it. Best computer I have ever owened. I'm writing on it right now, and I've edited four short films, reels, music videos and spent 4 - 8 hrs a day working on it. It has never crashed, broken or failed me ever. I am very careful with it and use an external keyboard / monitor / mouse for editing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a 1Ghz G4PB 14 months ago, and I love it. Best computer I have ever owened. I&#8217;m writing on it right now, and I&#8217;ve edited four short films, reels, music videos and spent 4 - 8 hrs a day working on it. It has never crashed, broken or failed me ever. I am very careful with it and use an external keyboard / monitor / mouse for editing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Potter</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2853</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've dealt with a great many iBooks - ranging from a clamshell 333 Mhz to a pair of 12" 1.07 GHz iBook G4s - and I'd probably agree with the suggestion that build quality has improved. My 12" 800 MHz iBook G3 is currently with Apple for its second logic board replacement, about a year after the last one, and this is my fourth logic board replacement in total (my 14" 700 MHz iBook died twice, but this is now OK and with my parents as their desktop machine).

But despite the issues I have had, my siblings' 1.07 GHz iBook G4s have been generally problem-free - one perfect, and one has had a trackpad issue that is currently being fixed. But there's not been any hint of logic board issues, thankfully - I presume that Apple finally has that one nipped in the bud. And friends' iBooks, both G3 and G4, have been trouble-free, but they get less use than mine, which gets knocked about a fair bit and is on almost 24/7.

I think the G4 models do feel a little better, especially the keyboards, but of course sacrifices have been made in battery life terms with the move to the G4 processor. The return to 6 hour battery lives with the Pentium M will not be unwelcome.

I do think though that the iBook vs. PowerBook is pretty much a no-brainer though - the PowerBook's better CPU and motherboard, faster, larger hard disk, better graphics card, etc. - I needn't go on - make it worth the extra spend. iBooks &lt;strong&gt;are&lt;/strong&gt; for students, those on a budget, and those with houses with large boilers that seem to cause incredibly frustrating interference with wireless networks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve dealt with a great many iBooks - ranging from a clamshell 333 Mhz to a pair of 12&#8243; 1.07 GHz iBook G4s - and I&#8217;d probably agree with the suggestion that build quality has improved. My 12&#8243; 800 MHz iBook G3 is currently with Apple for its second logic board replacement, about a year after the last one, and this is my fourth logic board replacement in total (my 14&#8243; 700 MHz iBook died twice, but this is now OK and with my parents as their desktop machine).</p>
<p>But despite the issues I have had, my siblings&#8217; 1.07 GHz iBook G4s have been generally problem-free - one perfect, and one has had a trackpad issue that is currently being fixed. But there&#8217;s not been any hint of logic board issues, thankfully - I presume that Apple finally has that one nipped in the bud. And friends&#8217; iBooks, both G3 and G4, have been trouble-free, but they get less use than mine, which gets knocked about a fair bit and is on almost 24/7.</p>
<p>I think the G4 models do feel a little better, especially the keyboards, but of course sacrifices have been made in battery life terms with the move to the G4 processor. The return to 6 hour battery lives with the Pentium M will not be unwelcome.</p>
<p>I do think though that the iBook vs. PowerBook is pretty much a no-brainer though - the PowerBook&#8217;s better CPU and motherboard, faster, larger hard disk, better graphics card, etc. - I needn&#8217;t go on - make it worth the extra spend. iBooks <strong>are</strong> for students, those on a budget, and those with houses with large boilers that seem to cause incredibly frustrating interference with wireless networks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2854</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've had a 12" iBook since december (so it's a G4). Now, I preface everything I say here based on the fact that this is my first Mac (and yes, have fallen in love and am never ever going back), but have been using and playing around inside PC's since I was small enough to actually get into the boxes.

But, to my iBook, I have to say I love it and haven't had any issues really at all (though it's only been 8 months or so admittedly). I adore the portability of the thing, and it lives in my bookbag, and it comes with me both to my research position and to study. And if I don't want to have my bookbag with me it can go into a cute tote as well (YMMV *grin*).

I actually like the slot-drive. I have used pc laptops with drawers and I was always having to move stuff from where I was working in order to let the damn thing come out. I've had a key stop responding once, but removing the keyboard and cleaning it with compressed air solved that.

However, I made two mistakes I realise now. I wish I had increased the ram and increased the hdd. I only have 256MB, and I only have 30GB. Needless to say I really notice the ram defiency when I am working on multiple aps (which happens a lot) but this is a solvable issue as when I have some extra cash I will be getting some more ram online. However, I am cursing the lack of hdd space, as I've got about as much of my iTunes collection as I can fit on the damn thing (I can't justify the luxury as a grad student of an iPod yet) so of course, it's a few gig off being full. I can't do much about that now without surgery, so it's annoying.

Finally, the one downside of the iBook is it's colour. Yep, it looks like an iPod, so one can match. But being white it picks up ANYTHING. Try wearing makeup and not getting any on the damn thing, it's virtually impossible; it seems to pick up dirt just sitting there and not doing anything. The best solution I have discovered is Mr Clean Magic Eraser, which works great, but thanks to the iBook, that doesn't last long.

If I had the money, I'd probably go with the powerbook (though the 12" model, again for the portability) simply because of the improved graphics, as with my experience the PB just has crisper edges and more defined colours, but that's just my opinion.

(course, also, I'm never going backt o PC's and as soon as I complete my studies and am earning I'm buying a G5 desktop (or whatever the Intel equivalent is by then) *grin*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a 12&#8243; iBook since december (so it&#8217;s a G4). Now, I preface everything I say here based on the fact that this is my first Mac (and yes, have fallen in love and am never ever going back), but have been using and playing around inside PC&#8217;s since I was small enough to actually get into the boxes.</p>
<p>But, to my iBook, I have to say I love it and haven&#8217;t had any issues really at all (though it&#8217;s only been 8 months or so admittedly). I adore the portability of the thing, and it lives in my bookbag, and it comes with me both to my research position and to study. And if I don&#8217;t want to have my bookbag with me it can go into a cute tote as well (YMMV *grin*).</p>
<p>I actually like the slot-drive. I have used pc laptops with drawers and I was always having to move stuff from where I was working in order to let the damn thing come out. I&#8217;ve had a key stop responding once, but removing the keyboard and cleaning it with compressed air solved that.</p>
<p>However, I made two mistakes I realise now. I wish I had increased the ram and increased the hdd. I only have 256MB, and I only have 30GB. Needless to say I really notice the ram defiency when I am working on multiple aps (which happens a lot) but this is a solvable issue as when I have some extra cash I will be getting some more ram online. However, I am cursing the lack of hdd space, as I&#8217;ve got about as much of my iTunes collection as I can fit on the damn thing (I can&#8217;t justify the luxury as a grad student of an iPod yet) so of course, it&#8217;s a few gig off being full. I can&#8217;t do much about that now without surgery, so it&#8217;s annoying.</p>
<p>Finally, the one downside of the iBook is it&#8217;s colour. Yep, it looks like an iPod, so one can match. But being white it picks up ANYTHING. Try wearing makeup and not getting any on the damn thing, it&#8217;s virtually impossible; it seems to pick up dirt just sitting there and not doing anything. The best solution I have discovered is Mr Clean Magic Eraser, which works great, but thanks to the iBook, that doesn&#8217;t last long.</p>
<p>If I had the money, I&#8217;d probably go with the powerbook (though the 12&#8243; model, again for the portability) simply because of the improved graphics, as with my experience the PB just has crisper edges and more defined colours, but that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
<p>(course, also, I&#8217;m never going backt o PC&#8217;s and as soon as I complete my studies and am earning I&#8217;m buying a G5 desktop (or whatever the Intel equivalent is by then) *grin*)</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Flax</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2855</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Flax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, my 15" also has 64MB VRAM, and I've had mixed results with 3D games. I tried the Battlefield 1942 demo and it wasn't great. But I recently tried the Halo demo and it ran nicely. Again, not exactly hard data, but those were my impressions for what it's worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, my 15&#8243; also has 64MB VRAM, and I&#8217;ve had mixed results with 3D games. I tried the Battlefield 1942 demo and it wasn&#8217;t great. But I recently tried the Halo demo and it ran nicely. Again, not exactly hard data, but those were my impressions for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Terhorst</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2005/07/19/stale-bread/#comment-2856</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Terhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, how does your 1.5 GHz perform in games? Say, America's Army, Medal of Honor, or other graphics-heavy FPS games? Considering that it can only go to 64 MB of VRAM, how does it hold up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, how does your 1.5 GHz perform in games? Say, America&#8217;s Army, Medal of Honor, or other graphics-heavy FPS games? Considering that it can only go to 64 MB of VRAM, how does it hold up?</p>
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