Comments on: Apple Support Video Podcasting http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:30:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Chris Holland http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16703 Chris Holland Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:58:46 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16703 Gareth: nice perspectives! A few friends had been telling me about the fiber speeds they get in Japan. Simply amazing. Fiber has started rolling out in my area, <a href="http://chrisholland.blogspot.com/2005/09/verizon-fiber-is-here.html" rel="nofollow">through Verizon</a>. Without going all fiber, there's plenty of potential for ADSL and ADLS2 to give us greater bang for the buck. But that's not in the telco's interest. Sadly. Even in France, my parents have been getting amazing speeds for dirt cheap over DSL. Check out the packages free.fr is offering. Check out the <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/chrisholland/2559874/" rel="nofollow">FreeBox</a> ... tripleplay. My Mom's had hers for a couple of years. Latest versions are sleeker. I agree that in the U.S., our territory is far more spread out. There is however no shortage of homes who can get the most out of ADSL. Including mine. Gareth: nice perspectives!

A few friends had been telling me about the fiber speeds they get in Japan. Simply amazing. Fiber has started rolling out in my area, through Verizon.

Without going all fiber, there’s plenty of potential for ADSL and ADLS2 to give us greater bang for the buck. But that’s not in the telco’s interest. Sadly. Even in France, my parents have been getting amazing speeds for dirt cheap over DSL. Check out the packages free.fr is offering. Check out the FreeBox … tripleplay. My Mom’s had hers for a couple of years. Latest versions are sleeker.

I agree that in the U.S., our territory is far more spread out. There is however no shortage of homes who can get the most out of ADSL. Including mine.

]]> By: Gareth Potter http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16687 Gareth Potter Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:32:14 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16687 You may be interested to know that <a href="http://bbpromo.yahoo.co.jp/" rel="nofollow">Yahoo! BB</a> is currently offering fibre connectivity with 100Mbit up and down, and labelling that a "home" product. Having looked at the technical details: 60Gbit backbone 1Gbit pipes into homes ...the above to better guarantee the 100Mbit up/down speeds Then it starts to get really galling - £10/$18 as a set-up fee, then £35/$70 (roughly) per month. I've used fibre in Japan, and fuck me if it isn't quick. I remember leaving a BitTorrent going for a day or so once and coming back to find that it had uploaded over 70Gb! <strong>Seventy gigabytes! That's insane!</strong> But - and this is a significant but - remember that this is all fibre, and bear in mind that at the moment large parts of Japan are not fibred-up, so to speak. The ADSL packages are not unimpressive, but are a little more down to earth, with download speeds ranging from 8 to 50Mbit and upload from 900Kbit to 8Mbit. Sychronous upstream/downstream speeds may not be possible without fancy (i.e. expensive) kit on the customer's end, and so is not practical. Also, don't forget the all-crucial factor in ADSL - distance-to-exchange. Given Japan's higher densities, this is far more <em>possible</em>, but simply isn't in some areas of the USA. I'm pleased to say that the UK is finally starting to get its act together. Local loop unbundling (as extensively covered by <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">The Register</a>), being the process by which BT (the former state-owned monoply) loses control over the "last mile" of copper down to your house, is making good progress, and we are starting to see packages offering speeds in excess of 20Mbit downstream. I myself am on an 8Mbit connexion at the moment, and I think we get 1Mbit upstream. But again, do consider the UK's greater densities, and the fact that, ironically, our own government is more committed to unfettered business competition than your own Land of the Supposedly Free. Certainly in telecommuncations, anyway. :P Gareth You may be interested to know that Yahoo! BB is currently offering fibre connectivity with 100Mbit up and down, and labelling that a “home” product. Having looked at the technical details:

60Gbit backbone
1Gbit pipes into homes
…the above to better guarantee the 100Mbit up/down speeds

Then it starts to get really galling - £10/$18 as a set-up fee, then £35/$70 (roughly) per month. I’ve used fibre in Japan, and fuck me if it isn’t quick. I remember leaving a BitTorrent going for a day or so once and coming back to find that it had uploaded over 70Gb! Seventy gigabytes! That’s insane!

But - and this is a significant but - remember that this is all fibre, and bear in mind that at the moment large parts of Japan are not fibred-up, so to speak. The ADSL packages are not unimpressive, but are a little more down to earth, with download speeds ranging from 8 to 50Mbit and upload from 900Kbit to 8Mbit. Sychronous upstream/downstream speeds may not be possible without fancy (i.e. expensive) kit on the customer’s end, and so is not practical. Also, don’t forget the all-crucial factor in ADSL - distance-to-exchange. Given Japan’s higher densities, this is far more possible, but simply isn’t in some areas of the USA.

I’m pleased to say that the UK is finally starting to get its act together. Local loop unbundling (as extensively covered by The Register), being the process by which BT (the former state-owned monoply) loses control over the “last mile” of copper down to your house, is making good progress, and we are starting to see packages offering speeds in excess of 20Mbit downstream. I myself am on an 8Mbit connexion at the moment, and I think we get 1Mbit upstream. But again, do consider the UK’s greater densities, and the fact that, ironically, our own government is more committed to unfettered business competition than your own Land of the Supposedly Free.

Certainly in telecommuncations, anyway. :P

Gareth

]]> By: Chris Holland http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16635 Chris Holland Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:54:27 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16635 What we need is more companies like Covad. In areas where you can get your DSL through Covad, you're likely to get at least twice the speed that you get from telcos. Not much, but it's a start. Thing is Covad isn't yet ready/able to lower its prices dramatically as they've just spent a ton of money deploying their own hardware in phone central offices across the United States. Covad only resells broadband, wholesale, to independent ISPs. So we need more independent ISPs such as Speakeasy (who almost exclusively deals with Covad), or EarthLink (who started out with telcos, and migrated some areas to dealing with Covad, but not all), to really do a lot of business with Covad. Phone companies don't much like being wholesalers. They just want to sell you, the user, crappy broadband at the highest price they'll get away with in a market with little to no competition. Phone companies suck. They're evil. All of them. I'm mulling over a post outlining steps i've just taken to ensure no phone company gets a red cent from me. they involve speakeasy and lingo.com What we need is more companies like Covad. In areas where you can get your DSL through Covad, you’re likely to get at least twice the speed that you get from telcos. Not much, but it’s a start. Thing is Covad isn’t yet ready/able to lower its prices dramatically as they’ve just spent a ton of money deploying their own hardware in phone central offices across the United States. Covad only resells broadband, wholesale, to independent ISPs. So we need more independent ISPs such as Speakeasy (who almost exclusively deals with Covad), or EarthLink (who started out with telcos, and migrated some areas to dealing with Covad, but not all), to really do a lot of business with Covad. Phone companies don’t much like being wholesalers. They just want to sell you, the user, crappy broadband at the highest price they’ll get away with in a market with little to no competition.

Phone companies suck. They’re evil. All of them. I’m mulling over a post outlining steps i’ve just taken to ensure no phone company gets a red cent from me. they involve speakeasy and lingo.com

]]> By: nwistheone http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16634 nwistheone Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:42:12 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16634 being an avid uploader, i too am sick of the 'choke-hold' held by cable companies, especially the company in my area. hopefully enough people will get into video up- and downloading to cause broadband providers to increase bandwidth. being an avid uploader, i too am sick of the ‘choke-hold’ held by cable companies, especially the company in my area. hopefully enough people will get into video up- and downloading to cause broadband providers to increase bandwidth.

]]> By: Nick Santilli http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16616 Nick Santilli Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:44:46 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/09/15/apple-support-video-podcasting/#comment-16616 A-men brother. regularly downloaded video podcasts should sufficiently crash a few providers. I just hope they'll upgrade appropriately instead of telling us, "Cease and Desist!" here's to bandwidth out the rear orifice. A-men brother.

regularly downloaded video podcasts should sufficiently crash a few providers. I just hope they’ll upgrade appropriately instead of telling us, “Cease and Desist!”

here’s to bandwidth out the rear orifice.

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