Comments on: Why Boot Camp Really Matters http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:25:22 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Briana http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-45669 Briana Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:00:24 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-45669 Antispyware solution from Orbasoft. I have tried so many different types of scans to help keep my PC running at its best and one thing that I discovered is that they all tend to find the same types of bugs. The main difference between them all is the price that you pay. Recently I discovered Orbasoft Antispyware at http://www.orbasoft.com and I really like it a lot. Antispyware solution from Orbasoft is one of the best scans I have ever used and I’m sure that you will be very happy with it as well. Go ahead and give it a try, you will be glad you did! Antispyware solution from Orbasoft.
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]]> By: AKT http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5972 AKT Wed, 03 May 2006 23:43:21 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5972 “Just a point to note, Apple’s Intel hardware is nothing special.” Obviously you’ve never owned any. ” in fact, its failure ratio (as personally observed) is far higher than most ordinary Intel hardware;” Jordan, where do you get this figure? Why do people say stuff like this without any kind of verifiable source except personal oberservation so, what, 1 or 2 machines constitutes a trend? You’ve personally seems hundreds of failures of PC laptops and Mac Intel machines to be able form an accurate large picture? You supervise a large repair center to see this is true? I doubt it. This sounds more like an opinion than anything based on fact. Keep it to yourself. The world doesn’t need more moronic biased FUD that can’t back up it’s claims. ====== Of my experience, i have noticed a far greater amount of hardware failure on NEWER apple hardware. Their software is rock solid. Our enterprise company invested in several G5's to upgrade our g4's, some mac minis, and several servers. The ratio of failure was unbelievable... about 1/3 of em had issues that you can pretty much find in the apple discussion groups. The g5 kept hanging...the mac mini cd drive was busted, the g5 server crashed during update and never recoverred? I love Mac's OS. I run em at home, but i'm fed up with the QC/ Failure ratio. I have no numbers to back this up. I either have a stroke of bad luck, or Apple's hardware QC is not great. Their support is wonderful, so we were able to exchange them for working hardware... but seriously. Our older g4's never had issues like this... Our powerbook g4 laptops had issues abundant. I have not noticed the likes of this in PC hardware... though their OS is crap (yay for linux). sooo in truthfulness unbiased view from just personal experience... i've noticed apple hardware failure more than PC. our enterprise runs on a mix of PC and Mac equipment. “Just a point to note, Apple’s Intel hardware is nothing special.”

Obviously you’ve never owned any.

” in fact, its failure ratio (as personally observed) is far higher than most ordinary Intel hardware;”

Jordan, where do you get this figure? Why do people say stuff like this without any kind of verifiable source except personal oberservation so, what, 1 or 2 machines constitutes a trend? You’ve personally seems hundreds of failures of PC laptops and Mac Intel machines to be able form an accurate large picture? You supervise a large repair center to see this is true? I doubt it.

This sounds more like an opinion than anything based on fact. Keep it to yourself. The world doesn’t need more moronic biased FUD that can’t back up it’s claims.

======

Of my experience, i have noticed a far greater amount of hardware failure on NEWER apple hardware. Their software is rock solid. Our enterprise company invested in several G5’s to upgrade our g4’s, some mac minis, and several servers. The ratio of failure was unbelievable… about 1/3 of em had issues that you can pretty much find in the apple discussion groups. The g5 kept hanging…the mac mini cd drive was busted, the g5 server crashed during update and never recoverred?

I love Mac’s OS. I run em at home, but i’m fed up with the QC/ Failure ratio. I have no numbers to back this up. I either have a stroke of bad luck, or Apple’s hardware QC is not great. Their support is wonderful, so we were able to exchange them for working hardware… but seriously.

Our older g4’s never had issues like this… Our powerbook g4 laptops had issues abundant.

I have not noticed the likes of this in PC hardware… though their OS is crap (yay for linux).

sooo in truthfulness unbiased view from just personal experience… i’ve noticed apple hardware failure more than PC.

our enterprise runs on a mix of PC and Mac equipment.

]]> By: Azbola http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5971 Azbola Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:53:45 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5971 One of the reasons apple does not have the same market share as microsoft is because the users of windows don't spend their whole time taking the p*ss out of some of the very people ("The Techie") who they want to use their software. I use Macs and PCs and both have their faults, I have certainly seen macs lock up and be slow as hell just like PCs. If you are basing your experience of PCs on Dell then you are using some of the cheapest nastiest hardware there is - and it is probably half the price of the Mac. Perhaps if Mac users (and Apple themselves, check out the snide tone of the Boot Camp page on the apple site) were less rabidly condescending about anything not apple then maybe more people would be willing to give it a go. One of the reasons apple does not have the same market share as microsoft is because the users of windows don’t spend their whole time taking the p*ss out of some of the very people (“The Techie”) who they want to use their software.

I use Macs and PCs and both have their faults, I have certainly seen macs lock up and be slow as hell just like PCs. If you are basing your experience of PCs on Dell then you are using some of the cheapest nastiest hardware there is – and it is probably half the price of the Mac.

Perhaps if Mac users (and Apple themselves, check out the snide tone of the Boot Camp page on the apple site) were less rabidly condescending about anything not apple then maybe more people would be willing to give it a go.

]]> By: Apple User http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5970 Apple User Fri, 07 Apr 2006 03:19:12 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5970 Why is apple promoting the use of Windows XP on Macs? The whole reason for purchasing a Mac is to get away from Windows. Microsoft Windows is complete junk. I have 5 Mac computers, and I don't want a Microsoft operating system anywhere near my Mac. I do not think that adding the use of Windows on a Mac will make more people switch. If they are going to switch, they need to switch because of the Mac OS. Someone explain the reasoning for this change. Why is apple promoting the use of Windows XP on Macs? The whole reason for purchasing a Mac is to get away from Windows. Microsoft Windows is complete junk. I have 5 Mac computers, and I don’t want a Microsoft operating system anywhere near my Mac.

I do not think that adding the use of Windows on a Mac will make more people switch. If they are going to switch, they need to switch because of the Mac OS.

Someone explain the reasoning for this change.

]]> By: Gareth Potter http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5969 Gareth Potter Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:13:26 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5969 Jon, It wasn't really intended as sarcasm. Save perhaps for the bit about the girlfriend, although... They are everywhere. G Jon,

It wasn’t really intended as sarcasm. Save perhaps for the bit about the girlfriend, although…

They are everywhere.

G

]]> By: Jon http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5968 Jon Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:04:11 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5968 “One of the key figures in Windows’ dominance is the techie. The bloke in the IT department at your organisation. Maybe he is one of many. He probably isn’t that bright, has rather poor hygiene and doesn’t have a girlfriend. He has an MCSE and probably little else, and for him, operating systems started with Windows 95. Maybe he’s heard of UNIX, probably he hasn’t. In his world, there is no Novell, Linux is for weirdos, Firefox sucks because Internet Explorer is the best web browser in existence, and the Mac…the Mac is just some lame computer for arty types.” Ok that really is a tad much!!! I hope it was implied sarcasm!!! “One of the key figures in Windows’ dominance is the techie. The bloke in the IT department at your organisation. Maybe he is one of many. He probably isn’t that bright, has rather poor hygiene and doesn’t have a girlfriend. He has an MCSE and probably little else, and for him, operating systems started with Windows 95. Maybe he’s heard of UNIX, probably he hasn’t. In his world, there is no Novell, Linux is for weirdos, Firefox sucks because Internet Explorer is the best web browser in existence, and the Mac…the Mac is just some lame computer for arty types.”

Ok that really is a tad much!!! I hope it was implied sarcasm!!!

]]> By: AaronC http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5967 AaronC Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:49:19 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5967 "One of the key figures in Windows’ dominance is the techie. The bloke in the IT department at your organisation. Maybe he is one of many. He probably isn’t that bright, has rather poor hygiene and doesn’t have a girlfriend. He has an MCSE and probably little else, and for him, operating systems started with Windows 95. Maybe he’s heard of UNIX, probably he hasn’t. In his world, there is no Novell, Linux is for weirdos, Firefox sucks because Internet Explorer is the best web browser in existence, and the Mac…the Mac is just some lame computer for arty types." This is one of the best paragraphs on "techies" in today's corporate world that I have read in a very long time. Thank you. “One of the key figures in Windows’ dominance is the techie. The bloke in the IT department at your organisation. Maybe he is one of many. He probably isn’t that bright, has rather poor hygiene and doesn’t have a girlfriend. He has an MCSE and probably little else, and for him, operating systems started with Windows 95. Maybe he’s heard of UNIX, probably he hasn’t. In his world, there is no Novell, Linux is for weirdos, Firefox sucks because Internet Explorer is the best web browser in existence, and the Mac…the Mac is just some lame computer for arty types.”

This is one of the best paragraphs on “techies” in today’s corporate world that I have read in a very long time. Thank you.

]]> By: Bob C http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5966 Bob C Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:18:15 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5966 I use my Powerbook everyday on both Linux and Windows networks, and have no problem on the Windows network sharing files, printing to network printers, scanning to network scanners, etc. I bought the Powerbook over a year ago, after buying iPods for my kids the previous Christmas, and then later one for myself. I was so impressed by the Apple experience, and the experience my daughter had with the iBook I bought her in the 8th grade, that I was finally convinced that this was a better solution than the 2 Dell laptops I had been using (one set up to dual boot Linux or Windows 2000). I originally intended to use it as my "home" computer for music and photos, and have ended up using it for everything. I'm now phasing out the Dell laptops and going all Mac. Incidentally, I've found that the Powerbook logs onto a Windows network seamlessly and with less problems than the Dell laptops. I've also exchanged files with other Windows computers using Bluetooth and in one case on a peer-to-peer basis when the Windows machine couldn't get on the network. Incidentally, the built-in Airport wireless access card works far better than any windows network card, either 3rd party or built-in. The last Dell laptop came with a built-in wireless access card that has been replaced twice and still doesn't work consistently, dropping the connection frequently during large file transfers. Dell was never able to figure it out. I have to go to a wired connection if I am going to transfer any file larger than a megabyte. I have used my Powerbook in many remote offices and never had a problem logging on, as long as I am given the correct security settings. I use my Powerbook everyday on both Linux and Windows networks, and have no problem on the Windows network sharing files, printing to network printers, scanning to network scanners, etc. I bought the Powerbook over a year ago, after buying iPods for my kids the previous Christmas, and then later one for myself. I was so impressed by the Apple experience, and the experience my daughter had with the iBook I bought her in the 8th grade, that I was finally convinced that this was a better solution than the 2 Dell laptops I had been using (one set up to dual boot Linux or Windows 2000). I originally intended to use it as my “home” computer for music and photos, and have ended up using it for everything. I’m now phasing out the Dell laptops and going all Mac. Incidentally, I’ve found that the Powerbook logs onto a Windows network seamlessly and with less problems than the Dell laptops. I’ve also exchanged files with other Windows computers using Bluetooth and in one case on a peer-to-peer basis when the Windows machine couldn’t get on the network. Incidentally, the built-in Airport wireless access card works far better than any windows network card, either 3rd party or built-in. The last Dell laptop came with a built-in wireless access card that has been replaced twice and still doesn’t work consistently, dropping the connection frequently during large file transfers. Dell was never able to figure it out. I have to go to a wired connection if I am going to transfer any file larger than a megabyte. I have used my Powerbook in many remote offices and never had a problem logging on, as long as I am given the correct security settings.

]]> By: PaulG http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5965 PaulG Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:29:55 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5965 "Just a point to note, Apple’s Intel hardware is nothing special." Obviously you've never owned any. " in fact, its failure ratio (as personally observed) is far higher than most ordinary Intel hardware;" Jordan, where do you get this figure? Why do people say stuff like this without any kind of verifiable source except personal oberservation so, what, 1 or 2 machines constitutes a trend? You've personally seems hundreds of failures of PC laptops and Mac Intel machines to be able form an accurate large picture? You supervise a large repair center to see this is true? I doubt it. This sounds more like an opinion than anything based on fact. Keep it to yourself. The world doesn't need more moronic biased FUD that can't back up it's claims. “Just a point to note, Apple’s Intel hardware is nothing special.”

Obviously you’ve never owned any.

” in fact, its failure ratio (as personally observed) is far higher than most ordinary Intel hardware;”

Jordan, where do you get this figure? Why do people say stuff like this without any kind of verifiable source except personal oberservation so, what, 1 or 2 machines constitutes a trend? You’ve personally seems hundreds of failures of PC laptops and Mac Intel machines to be able form an accurate large picture? You supervise a large repair center to see this is true? I doubt it.

This sounds more like an opinion than anything based on fact. Keep it to yourself. The world doesn’t need more moronic biased FUD that can’t back up it’s claims.

]]> By: lesley http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5964 lesley Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:29:48 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5964 it's the same reason why you can use your ipod on a windows and a mac, but ONLY if you use your PC first (and from there, get so amazed by the beauty that is the ipod and end up switching to a mac). it’s the same reason why you can use your ipod on a windows and a mac, but ONLY if you use your PC first (and from there, get so amazed by the beauty that is the ipod and end up switching to a mac).

]]> By: Ryan http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5963 Ryan Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:53:28 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5963 "the same system purchased with over the counter x86 hardware (without the Apple addon chip that says “I’m Apple!”) costs around 400$ less; and runs just as fast." Except, as you later in your post note, that it doesn't run OSX which is worth far more than an extra $400. "As to the mac successfully logging onto the Windows network…" Never had a problem myself... I've got one of those brutally boring windows 2k3 admin classes and we need to login to the domain and I use my powerbook (not a MACBOOK PRO) to connect to the wireless and have no issues getting on the domain specific to my class. “the same system purchased with over the counter x86 hardware (without the Apple addon chip that says “I’m Apple!”) costs around 400$ less; and runs just as fast.”

Except, as you later in your post note, that it doesn’t run OSX which is worth far more than an extra $400.

“As to the mac successfully logging onto the Windows network…”

Never had a problem myself… I’ve got one of those brutally boring windows 2k3 admin classes and we need to login to the domain and I use my powerbook (not a MACBOOK PRO) to connect to the wireless and have no issues getting on the domain specific to my class.

]]> By: Pete http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5962 Pete Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:15:54 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5962 Oh now, that's not an OS X Mac running on our network, printing to our printers and sharing files etc. Geez, some people need to get into the modern era. Oh now, that’s not an OS X Mac running on our network, printing to our printers and sharing files etc. Geez, some people need to get into the modern era.

]]> By: Finney http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5961 Finney Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:46:26 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5961 Amen. Amen.

]]> By: Jordan T. Cox http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5960 Jordan T. Cox Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:45:48 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5960 Erm... regarding the part about Half Life 2 running fast... just as a point of technicality of course... the same system purchased with over the counter x86 hardware (without the Apple addon chip that says "I'm Apple!") costs around 400$ less; and runs just as fast. Just a point to note, Apple's Intel hardware is nothing special. In actuality, I've never thought anything good of Apple's internal hardware - in fact, its failure ratio (as personally observed) is far higher than most ordinary Intel hardware; and comparable performance (hello unupgradable video cards and RAM?) inferior to the equivelantly priced x86 stuff. It's their external design packaging, and operating system that make it a package worth buying - at least to me. Not the hardware. The OS architecture is far superior to XP, because it was designed from the ground up _without_ XP's extra compatiblity baggage - so a lot could get overlooked, and new stuff added. As to the mac successfully logging onto the Windows network... I've never successfully gotten one onboard a Windows domain. Do they even have SMB domain logon capability? I'm pretty sure that they have zero support for 2k3 domains, as even the Samba project has trouble with it. Any confirmations about that? Just some random ranting. Erm… regarding the part about Half Life 2 running fast… just as a point of technicality of course… the same system purchased with over the counter x86 hardware (without the Apple addon chip that says “I’m Apple!”) costs around 400$ less; and runs just as fast.

Just a point to note, Apple’s Intel hardware is nothing special. In actuality, I’ve never thought anything good of Apple’s internal hardware – in fact, its failure ratio (as personally observed) is far higher than most ordinary Intel hardware; and comparable performance (hello unupgradable video cards and RAM?) inferior to the equivelantly priced x86 stuff.

It’s their external design packaging, and operating system that make it a package worth buying – at least to me. Not the hardware. The OS architecture is far superior to XP, because it was designed from the ground up _without_ XP’s extra compatiblity baggage – so a lot could get overlooked, and new stuff added.

As to the mac successfully logging onto the Windows network… I’ve never successfully gotten one onboard a Windows domain. Do they even have SMB domain logon capability? I’m pretty sure that they have zero support for 2k3 domains, as even the Samba project has trouble with it. Any confirmations about that?

Just some random ranting.

]]> By: Michael http://theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5959 Michael Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:57:37 +0000 http://www.theappleblog.com/2006/04/05/why-boot-camp-really-matters/#comment-5959 Oh my god I know what you're saying. I can definitely see this happening. Those guys at Apple are clever. Oh my god I know what you’re saying. I can definitely see this happening. Those guys at Apple are clever.

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