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	<title>Comments on: User Feedback: Do you maximize your windows?</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-120145</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 07:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every once in a while I’ll maximize something, but it happens *so* rarely as to be nonexistent. Why have all that whitespace in the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every once in a while I’ll maximize something, but it happens *so* rarely as to be nonexistent. Why have all that whitespace in the way?</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano Cappellini</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-116604</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefano Cappellini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 09:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my MacBook, most everything ends up maximised. but on the mothership at home ( 24' iMac!) having anything maximised is just daunting... a 24' document is scary! I find my productivity is much higher on the iMac because I can have Safari, itunes, and 2 documents open at once without switching between! but then again, with exposé on my MacBook, its still so easy to switch between windows.. I love Mac OS X!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my MacBook, most everything ends up maximised. but on the mothership at home ( 24&#8242; iMac!) having anything maximised is just daunting&#8230; a 24&#8242; document is scary! I find my productivity is much higher on the iMac because I can have Safari, itunes, and 2 documents open at once without switching between! but then again, with exposé on my MacBook, its still so easy to switch between windows.. I love Mac OS X!</p>
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		<title>By: Techpriest</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-109873</link>
		<dc:creator>Techpriest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for my current program taking up my whole screen being a "Windows Thing" I think you are suffering from the same narrow Microsoft brainwashed view you are accusing other of having.
When I started on PCs in 1982 with the Atari 400 Home Computer everything I did was full screen (TV screen even), I had no choice.  I then moved to the Apple II, again everything is full screen.  I liked the first Macs (I may be wrong but I think the first Mac OS had maximize) but could not afford them so when they stopped developing for the Apple II I switched to IBM Compatibles and DOS, everything was still full screen.  Finally ten years after first getting a PC I run Windows 3.11 and can use multiple programs at once!  I can still maximize if I want to and usually do since 800x600 and 15" screens don't give much real estate.  I learn to hate Windows 3.11 and after falling in love with OS/2 I switched to it, yup I could maximize my windows there.  OS/2 dies around 96 so I join the rest of the world in Windows where I stay until this year when I switch to Mac.  Now you tell me that full screen is a "Windows" invention and that I have been using my computers wrong these past 25 years.  Nope, not buying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for my current program taking up my whole screen being a &#8220;Windows Thing&#8221; I think you are suffering from the same narrow Microsoft brainwashed view you are accusing other of having.<br />
When I started on PCs in 1982 with the Atari 400 Home Computer everything I did was full screen (TV screen even), I had no choice.  I then moved to the Apple II, again everything is full screen.  I liked the first Macs (I may be wrong but I think the first Mac OS had maximize) but could not afford them so when they stopped developing for the Apple II I switched to IBM Compatibles and DOS, everything was still full screen.  Finally ten years after first getting a PC I run Windows 3.11 and can use multiple programs at once!  I can still maximize if I want to and usually do since 800&#215;600 and 15&#8243; screens don&#8217;t give much real estate.  I learn to hate Windows 3.11 and after falling in love with OS/2 I switched to it, yup I could maximize my windows there.  OS/2 dies around 96 so I join the rest of the world in Windows where I stay until this year when I switch to Mac.  Now you tell me that full screen is a &#8220;Windows&#8221; invention and that I have been using my computers wrong these past 25 years.  Nope, not buying it.</p>
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		<title>By: Techpriest</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-109872</link>
		<dc:creator>Techpriest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES!  I have a 17" monitor and 15" monitor on my PowerMac.  Right now I have Safari maximized on the 17 thanks to an added FullScreen button and on the 15 I have iTunes sized to fill the screen.  I often do several things at one but I usually make the windows as big as I can and use Expose to switch between the windows.  

I find having lots of small windows visable at once just makes my screen look cluttered and is harder for me to find what I want.  Adding a maximize button would help those that want it, and I fail to see how it would hurt those that don't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!  I have a 17&#8243; monitor and 15&#8243; monitor on my PowerMac.  Right now I have Safari maximized on the 17 thanks to an added FullScreen button and on the 15 I have iTunes sized to fill the screen.  I often do several things at one but I usually make the windows as big as I can and use Expose to switch between the windows.  </p>
<p>I find having lots of small windows visable at once just makes my screen look cluttered and is harder for me to find what I want.  Adding a maximize button would help those that want it, and I fail to see how it would hurt those that don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-108886</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using the mac forever. I never maximize the browser, email apps, or finder windows and always tend to have multiple open even when using tabbed browsing in safari.

On the other hand when I am using any design/video/audio applications I always maximize and need more room for all the palettes.

When I hide an application there are always 3-4 smaller browser, email, and finder windows floating on the dexktop...lets say I love expose, couldn't function without it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using the mac forever. I never maximize the browser, email apps, or finder windows and always tend to have multiple open even when using tabbed browsing in safari.</p>
<p>On the other hand when I am using any design/video/audio applications I always maximize and need more room for all the palettes.</p>
<p>When I hide an application there are always 3-4 smaller browser, email, and finder windows floating on the dexktop&#8230;lets say I love expose, couldn&#8217;t function without it.</p>
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		<title>By: Larissa</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-105493</link>
		<dc:creator>Larissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 03:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - no moral judgement here just have a limited attention span and a preference for one window at a time.  Is there a way to get a full screen window on the MAC book?  I'm lost with zoom/maximize language.  I'm a neophyte and desperate for beginners lesson if anyone can help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree - no moral judgement here just have a limited attention span and a preference for one window at a time.  Is there a way to get a full screen window on the MAC book?  I&#8217;m lost with zoom/maximize language.  I&#8217;m a neophyte and desperate for beginners lesson if anyone can help!</p>
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		<title>By: Dash</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-103342</link>
		<dc:creator>Dash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maximized windows... I usually want to maximize. I am *not* saying it's "better" to maximize and I'm not saying other people "should" maximize. But I often want to maximize and I really really want an easy way to do it! I came from Windows where it was easy to do and now I miss it.

Does anyone have a hack? I really really want a keyboard shortcut that maximizes the current window whatever it is. Again, I'm not saying my way is 'right' or better, but it sure is better for me. Any suggestions? And BTW I'm not enough of a programmer to figure this out myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maximized windows&#8230; I usually want to maximize. I am *not* saying it&#8217;s &#8220;better&#8221; to maximize and I&#8217;m not saying other people &#8220;should&#8221; maximize. But I often want to maximize and I really really want an easy way to do it! I came from Windows where it was easy to do and now I miss it.</p>
<p>Does anyone have a hack? I really really want a keyboard shortcut that maximizes the current window whatever it is. Again, I&#8217;m not saying my way is &#8216;right&#8217; or better, but it sure is better for me. Any suggestions? And BTW I&#8217;m not enough of a programmer to figure this out myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-102993</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't maximize my windows because I was a moron and bought mac os x.

By the way if you have windows and have many applications open, you still have 1 click access your desktop, 1 click access to anything open, 1 click access to your shortcuts (quick start), and 1 click access to everything else on your harddrive.  It's called the taskbar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t maximize my windows because I was a moron and bought mac os x.</p>
<p>By the way if you have windows and have many applications open, you still have 1 click access your desktop, 1 click access to anything open, 1 click access to your shortcuts (quick start), and 1 click access to everything else on your harddrive.  It&#8217;s called the taskbar.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-100709</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maximizing is a Windows-ism. It's also a bad idea. I need to see what's happening to my Desktop and need one-click access to it and other windows. Not maximising facilitates that.

If you're the distractable type, just HIDE other applications. As a side benefit, that reduces system load thus improving foreground application responsiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maximizing is a Windows-ism. It&#8217;s also a bad idea. I need to see what&#8217;s happening to my Desktop and need one-click access to it and other windows. Not maximising facilitates that.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re the distractable type, just HIDE other applications. As a side benefit, that reduces system load thus improving foreground application responsiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Denís</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-60643</link>
		<dc:creator>Denís</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't exactly maximize all the time, although I do maximize a good part of the time. Whenever I am working on something that gathers all my attention for a long time (Inkscape, a console with Emacs) I keep that application maximized.

Also, even when my windows are not maximized I like to keep them well stacked one against the other. I dislike windows to overlap -- overlapped windows are a problem, not a feature --, so I try to find arrangements that will show most of them at the same time. Three elements are key in managing to do this:

1) Virtual Desktops. Unlike Windows does, in GNU/Linux most window managers support virtual desktops which will allow you a complete change of context within a keystroke. This allows you effectively to have (in my case) six desktops with the windows maximized or arranged the way you want. Since I dislike overlapping, I tend to keep a limited number of windows per desktop (one for the browser, one for the mail, one for the code, etc.). The advantage of this is that I don't have the feeling of switching windows around (it's psychological) and in teh rare cases that I do have more than one window per desktop, I don't have to rearrange them around if I change context. Also, most pagers provide visual feedback on which windows are open, so it is easy to locate an app.

2) A good window manager that will allow window snapping (to the edges of the screen and among windows themselves) and window placement and resizing via keyboard. I use XFWM4 (XFCE 4's window manager) hardly move my hands off the keyboard anytime, and this allows me to resize and rearrange my windows very fast and effectively.

3) Optionally, a window manager that will do automatic window placement to minimize overlapping. As far as I know, only Enlightenment (16) does this. It's not perfect, but very handy at times. It *would* be perfect if it had also a good manual control as XFWM4 has. The way it is now, I stick with XFWM4.

All these options will most likely sound strange to the readers of this blog. It's reasonable. GNU/Linux has done a lot of experimentation on interfaces, which if not as good looking as MacOSX's, have implemented very useful tricks that I have not seen anywhere else. I would advise anyone here to give them a try, to get familiarized with those ideas, and then try to use an interface like OSX's or Windows'.



P.S.: The menu bar on top, which so many mac users cherish and that I did praise once too, is a great idea initially, but not so much once you have it intereact with the rest of the desktop. Most GNU/Linux window managers implement a focus policy known as 'sloppy focus' -- in other words, the focus follows the mouse pointer, without need to click --. This is very useful, but becomes a hell whenever you have also a detached menu bar, because most likely while travelling from the window to the bar you will pass over other windows, which in turn will change the menus to their own.

Also, although the fixed menu bar saves space and eases the interface because it is always placed in the same place, I think that all experienced users end up using keyboard shortcuts more than mouseclicks. So I would just do menu bars auto-hiding, or minimal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t exactly maximize all the time, although I do maximize a good part of the time. Whenever I am working on something that gathers all my attention for a long time (Inkscape, a console with Emacs) I keep that application maximized.</p>
<p>Also, even when my windows are not maximized I like to keep them well stacked one against the other. I dislike windows to overlap &#8212; overlapped windows are a problem, not a feature &#8211;, so I try to find arrangements that will show most of them at the same time. Three elements are key in managing to do this:</p>
<p>1) Virtual Desktops. Unlike Windows does, in GNU/Linux most window managers support virtual desktops which will allow you a complete change of context within a keystroke. This allows you effectively to have (in my case) six desktops with the windows maximized or arranged the way you want. Since I dislike overlapping, I tend to keep a limited number of windows per desktop (one for the browser, one for the mail, one for the code, etc.). The advantage of this is that I don&#8217;t have the feeling of switching windows around (it&#8217;s psychological) and in teh rare cases that I do have more than one window per desktop, I don&#8217;t have to rearrange them around if I change context. Also, most pagers provide visual feedback on which windows are open, so it is easy to locate an app.</p>
<p>2) A good window manager that will allow window snapping (to the edges of the screen and among windows themselves) and window placement and resizing via keyboard. I use XFWM4 (XFCE 4&#8217;s window manager) hardly move my hands off the keyboard anytime, and this allows me to resize and rearrange my windows very fast and effectively.</p>
<p>3) Optionally, a window manager that will do automatic window placement to minimize overlapping. As far as I know, only Enlightenment (16) does this. It&#8217;s not perfect, but very handy at times. It *would* be perfect if it had also a good manual control as XFWM4 has. The way it is now, I stick with XFWM4.</p>
<p>All these options will most likely sound strange to the readers of this blog. It&#8217;s reasonable. GNU/Linux has done a lot of experimentation on interfaces, which if not as good looking as MacOSX&#8217;s, have implemented very useful tricks that I have not seen anywhere else. I would advise anyone here to give them a try, to get familiarized with those ideas, and then try to use an interface like OSX&#8217;s or Windows&#8217;.</p>
<p>P.S.: The menu bar on top, which so many mac users cherish and that I did praise once too, is a great idea initially, but not so much once you have it intereact with the rest of the desktop. Most GNU/Linux window managers implement a focus policy known as &#8217;sloppy focus&#8217; &#8212; in other words, the focus follows the mouse pointer, without need to click &#8211;. This is very useful, but becomes a hell whenever you have also a detached menu bar, because most likely while travelling from the window to the bar you will pass over other windows, which in turn will change the menus to their own.</p>
<p>Also, although the fixed menu bar saves space and eases the interface because it is always placed in the same place, I think that all experienced users end up using keyboard shortcuts more than mouseclicks. So I would just do menu bars auto-hiding, or minimal.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-56130</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working on dual screens 20" and 15"PB, I usually have a browser window, iTunes, iChat, Mail, and NetNewsWire all open...so no, I don't maximize. I'll only "Maximize" if I'm working in Logic or other professional- or needs-full-foc us applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working on dual screens 20&#8243; and 15&#8243;PB, I usually have a browser window, iTunes, iChat, Mail, and NetNewsWire all open&#8230;so no, I don&#8217;t maximize. I&#8217;ll only &#8220;Maximize&#8221; if I&#8217;m working in Logic or other professional- or needs-full-foc us applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Laptop Freak</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-55834</link>
		<dc:creator>Laptop Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually maximize all windows on my 15” laptop screen and keep them smaller on two 20” monitors.</description>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-55422</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, always... but not all programs.

Really miss it in OS X to have a standard (real) maximise button (like winxp has).... Programs like MegaZoomer are a work around but not as well as MS has implemented it...

Apple: At least give the webbrowser such an option to full screen maximise!

p.s. Really find it annoying too that, in things like office for mac, there is no option to get just 1 program (and not 1000's of little option menu's)... Office for Windows works much better for me up till now (using parallels just to have a one-program office look :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, always&#8230; but not all programs.</p>
<p>Really miss it in OS X to have a standard (real) maximise button (like winxp has)&#8230;. Programs like MegaZoomer are a work around but not as well as MS has implemented it&#8230;</p>
<p>Apple: At least give the webbrowser such an option to full screen maximise!</p>
<p>p.s. Really find it annoying too that, in things like office for mac, there is no option to get just 1 program (and not 1000&#8217;s of little option menu&#8217;s)&#8230; Office for Windows works much better for me up till now (using parallels just to have a one-program office look <img src='http://theappleblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Maunder</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-55420</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Maunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not like to make my windows very big because most of the time everything fits in the little defalt sized box that they start out with.</description>
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		<title>By: Pearl</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-54300</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometimes have 5 or 6 Safari windows with ten or so tabs out on each, but rarely more than 4/5 of the screen.</description>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm... where to begin...

It all depends on the screen space i have. Working at 1024x768 yes. Always.

Above that it is dependant on what I'm doing. At work I've a 17" single and work mainly with SAS (base, mainly coding), Excel, Word, Lotus Notes (*shudder*), FF etc. Everything but FF is maximised, and that's mainly because the vast majority of sites i surf to cater for the 1024x768 or 800x600 crowd (a good thing) and thus it's not needed. If i had duals I'd have two app's open at maximum for the individual monitor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230; where to begin&#8230;</p>
<p>It all depends on the screen space i have. Working at 1024&#215;768 yes. Always.</p>
<p>Above that it is dependant on what I&#8217;m doing. At work I&#8217;ve a 17&#8243; single and work mainly with SAS (base, mainly coding), Excel, Word, Lotus Notes (*shudder*), FF etc. Everything but FF is maximised, and that&#8217;s mainly because the vast majority of sites i surf to cater for the 1024&#215;768 or 800&#215;600 crowd (a good thing) and thus it&#8217;s not needed. If i had duals I&#8217;d have two app&#8217;s open at maximum for the individual monitor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53525</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True but 'simply maximizing' isn't really that simple since you need to reposition the window and then manually make it bigger.

Why have a huge window with tons of wasted space (most likely anyway, like with web browsers, ftp clients, mail clients, etc) when you can just do it the way the os intended? I don't see the big deal. If you are really that 'distracted' by multiple windows then just hide them.

I'm not saying you shouldn't maximize things or that you can't or anything... I'm just saying maybe you should try doing it the way apple intended becuase it works for lots of people and maybe if you put aside the maximizing fetish for a while you'll see it's better this way anyways :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True but &#8217;simply maximizing&#8217; isn&#8217;t really that simple since you need to reposition the window and then manually make it bigger.</p>
<p>Why have a huge window with tons of wasted space (most likely anyway, like with web browsers, ftp clients, mail clients, etc) when you can just do it the way the os intended? I don&#8217;t see the big deal. If you are really that &#8216;distracted&#8217; by multiple windows then just hide them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying you shouldn&#8217;t maximize things or that you can&#8217;t or anything&#8230; I&#8217;m just saying maybe you should try doing it the way apple intended becuase it works for lots of people and maybe if you put aside the maximizing fetish for a while you&#8217;ll see it&#8217;s better this way anyways :p</p>
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		<title>By: Mantiz</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53523</link>
		<dc:creator>Mantiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"if this actually affects you then you can simply hit opt-cmd-H and it’s problem solved, no maximizing necessary." 
Or you can simply maximize!  Both ways are good for different things, and different people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if this actually affects you then you can simply hit opt-cmd-H and it’s problem solved, no maximizing necessary.&#8221;<br />
Or you can simply maximize!  Both ways are good for different things, and different people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53502</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"studies have shown that concentrating on several things at once is extremely counter productive itself."

Perhaps, and if this actually affects you then you can simply hit opt-cmd-H and it's problem solved, no maximizing necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;studies have shown that concentrating on several things at once is extremely counter productive itself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps, and if this actually affects you then you can simply hit opt-cmd-H and it&#8217;s problem solved, no maximizing necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53501</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never maximise windows on my mac, even on this little new MacBook I prefer to see some borders around my windows. I was the same as every windows user I've ever shown the mac to when I first used macs - desperately trying to maximise just because I was used to only thinking about one thing at any one time. I can still do that if I want by shoving my other windows out the way/dock etc, but most of the time I'll have em tiled with their own 'side' of the screen even though they overlap.

Now it drives me crazy when I have my windows tiled on my xp machine at work (pah) and someone comes along to show me something, leans over, and as a matter of course maximises the window I had open because they can't cope with it not being maximised. Grr!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never maximise windows on my mac, even on this little new MacBook I prefer to see some borders around my windows. I was the same as every windows user I&#8217;ve ever shown the mac to when I first used macs - desperately trying to maximise just because I was used to only thinking about one thing at any one time. I can still do that if I want by shoving my other windows out the way/dock etc, but most of the time I&#8217;ll have em tiled with their own &#8217;side&#8217; of the screen even though they overlap.</p>
<p>Now it drives me crazy when I have my windows tiled on my xp machine at work (pah) and someone comes along to show me something, leans over, and as a matter of course maximises the window I had open because they can&#8217;t cope with it not being maximised. Grr!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Pigford</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53499</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Pigford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Lime:&lt;/b&gt; Never maximize anything, its the most counter productive thing you can do desktop wise. I’m not 5 years old I can concentrate on several things at once.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
While I agree that maximizing everything with some apps can be counter productive, studies have shown that concentrating on several things at once is extremely counter productive itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><b>Lime:</b> Never maximize anything, its the most counter productive thing you can do desktop wise. I’m not 5 years old I can concentrate on several things at once.</p></blockquote>
<p>While I agree that maximizing everything with some apps can be counter productive, studies have shown that concentrating on several things at once is extremely counter productive itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Lime</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53498</link>
		<dc:creator>Lime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never maximize anything, its the most counter productive thing you can do desktop wise. I'm not 5 years old I can concentrate on several things at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never maximize anything, its the most counter productive thing you can do desktop wise. I&#8217;m not 5 years old I can concentrate on several things at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Fyffe</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53497</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Fyffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never maximize even though I use a 12in Powerbook.  I might adjust slightly the size of the window, but better than being big is being the right proportion.  One program that I use to help me out for window switching in addition to CMD Tab is &lt;a href="http://www.petermaurer.de/nasi.php?section=witch" rel="nofollow"&gt;Witch&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never maximize even though I use a 12in Powerbook.  I might adjust slightly the size of the window, but better than being big is being the right proportion.  One program that I use to help me out for window switching in addition to CMD Tab is <a href="http://www.petermaurer.de/nasi.php?section=witch" rel="nofollow">Witch</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaDude</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53477</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than Final Cut Express, I don't run anything full-screen.  When I first switched several years ago, I had been a mandatory maximizer in the PC world.  I found the "zoom" button frustrating, as it did not operate like the Windows "maxmize" button.  But within a few short weeks I realized that I actually prefer to not run everything full screen and started using less-than-full-screen sized windows even in Windows, which  I still have to use at work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than Final Cut Express, I don&#8217;t run anything full-screen.  When I first switched several years ago, I had been a mandatory maximizer in the PC world.  I found the &#8220;zoom&#8221; button frustrating, as it did not operate like the Windows &#8220;maxmize&#8221; button.  But within a few short weeks I realized that I actually prefer to not run everything full screen and started using less-than-full-screen sized windows even in Windows, which  I still have to use at work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lordmike</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53473</link>
		<dc:creator>Lordmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no good maximize button like in windows/slackware etc etc, which actually fills up the whole screen as maximize should. Green button ( ) just fills top to bottom, not to the sides. That sucks.
Just one of the very small annoying things about my macbook pro, nothing serious though. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no good maximize button like in windows/slackware etc etc, which actually fills up the whole screen as maximize should. Green button ( ) just fills top to bottom, not to the sides. That sucks.<br />
Just one of the very small annoying things about my macbook pro, nothing serious though. <img src='http://theappleblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Twist</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53460</link>
		<dc:creator>Twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use a dual monitor setup with my iBook and I keep Safari, NewsFire, Mail, and a few others maximized for the built-in 1024x768 screen but not my external 1280x1024. Other than that I use smaller windows for most thing. The only things I really maximize on my 1280x1024 monitor is the Adobe CS2 apps and sometimes BBEdit when I am deep into some code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use a dual monitor setup with my iBook and I keep Safari, NewsFire, Mail, and a few others maximized for the built-in 1024&#215;768 screen but not my external 1280&#215;1024. Other than that I use smaller windows for most thing. The only things I really maximize on my 1280&#215;1024 monitor is the Adobe CS2 apps and sometimes BBEdit when I am deep into some code.</p>
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		<title>By: Volt</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53456</link>
		<dc:creator>Volt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. Even though I use a 12" PowerBook, I never maximize my windows. I tend to view videos and movies full-screen, but that's about it.

I don't even maximize my browser. I always did on Windows and Linux, but it doesn't quite seem right on the Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. Even though I use a 12&#8243; PowerBook, I never maximize my windows. I tend to view videos and movies full-screen, but that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even maximize my browser. I always did on Windows and Linux, but it doesn&#8217;t quite seem right on the Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53451</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 05:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 12" Powerbook and I usually don't maximize my windows except for some special situations like reading logfiles with long lines or browsing through my iTunes Library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 12&#8243; Powerbook and I usually don&#8217;t maximize my windows except for some special situations like reading logfiles with long lines or browsing through my iTunes Library.</p>
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		<title>By: hisaac</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53445</link>
		<dc:creator>hisaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always been curious about this as well. I was a hardcore Windows user up until about 8 months ago when I bought my iBook. I always maximized my windows on XP, but ever since I've switched to the Mac, I hardly ever maximize anything. When I hook up to my second 19" monitor, I usually just maximize my browser there, and leave everything else in the laptop monitor.

I'm really not sure why I don't maximize windows now. I've always thought it was a Mac thing, but I don't know why. Perhaps it has to do with Windows having the Taskbar at the bottom, while Mac OS X doesn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been curious about this as well. I was a hardcore Windows user up until about 8 months ago when I bought my iBook. I always maximized my windows on XP, but ever since I&#8217;ve switched to the Mac, I hardly ever maximize anything. When I hook up to my second 19&#8243; monitor, I usually just maximize my browser there, and leave everything else in the laptop monitor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really not sure why I don&#8217;t maximize windows now. I&#8217;ve always thought it was a Mac thing, but I don&#8217;t know why. Perhaps it has to do with Windows having the Taskbar at the bottom, while Mac OS X doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Still on Windows</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53443</link>
		<dc:creator>Still on Windows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always maximize.

Sadly, I'm still on Windows.  19" monitor.  Over here in Winland, I don't understand why anyone &lt;i&gt;wouldn't&lt;/i&gt; maximize.  Why would you waste screen width and look at everything in a smaller font than you had to?

Maybe once I get my MacBook I'll change my tune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always maximize.</p>
<p>Sadly, I&#8217;m still on Windows.  19&#8243; monitor.  Over here in Winland, I don&#8217;t understand why anyone <i>wouldn&#8217;t</i> maximize.  Why would you waste screen width and look at everything in a smaller font than you had to?</p>
<p>Maybe once I get my MacBook I&#8217;ll change my tune.</p>
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		<title>By: sjmills</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53439</link>
		<dc:creator>sjmills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most windows I prefer to drag to the size I want them. Like Finder windows in list view that have many items, I'll make the full height of the screen (minus menubar of course). Clicking the zoom button usually make them wider than I want. I only use 4 columns, but only like to keep the name and size visible. Same with Xcode - zooming makes them too wide.

Graphics apps, I tend to zoom the windows to full size, like Photoshop and Creator (although Creator thoughtfully has a pref to keep and right and/or bottom screen margin for palettes and Dock).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most windows I prefer to drag to the size I want them. Like Finder windows in list view that have many items, I&#8217;ll make the full height of the screen (minus menubar of course). Clicking the zoom button usually make them wider than I want. I only use 4 columns, but only like to keep the name and size visible. Same with Xcode - zooming makes them too wide.</p>
<p>Graphics apps, I tend to zoom the windows to full size, like Photoshop and Creator (although Creator thoughtfully has a pref to keep and right and/or bottom screen margin for palettes and Dock).</p>
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		<title>By: Pais Mocara</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53435</link>
		<dc:creator>Pais Mocara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a bit pants. If you try to bracket something in your post you see the opening bracker and nothing after. Pants I tell you, Pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a bit pants. If you try to bracket something in your post you see the opening bracker and nothing after. Pants I tell you, Pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Pais Mocara</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53434</link>
		<dc:creator>Pais Mocara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never maximise (</description>
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		<title>By: midbach</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53433</link>
		<dc:creator>midbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. I have a 15" PowerBook and I don't feel the need to max out any windows. Maybe if I had a 12" or a MacBook but the resolution on the 15" is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. I have a 15&#8243; PowerBook and I don&#8217;t feel the need to max out any windows. Maybe if I had a 12&#8243; or a MacBook but the resolution on the 15&#8243; is great.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2006/06/26/user-feedback-do-you-maximize-your-windows/#comment-53431</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never maximized. I have a 12" iBook G4... and I have never used the little green plus. I was confused what the maximizing was. I just tried it... I like the clever fit entire contents feature, honestly. I don't care. As long as I can see all my stuff at once, I don't need wasted space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never maximized. I have a 12&#8243; iBook G4&#8230; and I have never used the little green plus. I was confused what the maximizing was. I just tried it&#8230; I like the clever fit entire contents feature, honestly. I don&#8217;t care. As long as I can see all my stuff at once, I don&#8217;t need wasted space.</p>
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