Comments on: I Hate Transperency http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:49:43 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: manjysg hsjsy http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11804 manjysg hsjsy Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:35:13 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11804 sdfsdf sdf sdv sd sdsddvdsvd sdfsdf sdf sdv sd sdsddvdsvd

]]> By: oomu http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11803 oomu Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:20:31 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11803 I think transparency can be useful and there are no need to make a fuss. by default apple do not use too much transparency adium is not "transparency" by default terminal is not invisible by default and so on. (of couse it's crazy to put adium with transparency besides TEXTS ! ) in fact : there are nothing to say I think transparency can be useful and there are no need to make a fuss.

by default apple do not use too much transparency

adium is not “transparency” by default

terminal is not invisible by default

and so on.

(of couse it’s crazy to put adium with transparency besides TEXTS ! )

in fact : there are nothing to say

]]> By: Oliver Dueck http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11785 Oliver Dueck Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:35:53 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11785 I have it turned on in Terminal, mainly because I have a 12" PowerBook and it is nice to be able to see a web page or document that you can reference when you are working in the terminal. As for Adium, I saw it turned on on a friend's system the other day, then turned it on as soon as I got home. It serves no practical purpose, though. I have it turned on in Terminal, mainly because I have a 12″ PowerBook and it is nice to be able to see a web page or document that you can reference when you are working in the terminal.

As for Adium, I saw it turned on on a friend’s system the other day, then turned it on as soon as I got home. It serves no practical purpose, though.

]]> By: Chris Vick http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11802 Chris Vick Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:15:55 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11802 Well, it's your own damn fault for turning on transparency on those apps anyway. Like people have been saying, Terminal and Adium aren't transparent out of the box. You have to configure it that way in the first place. Well, it’s your own damn fault for turning on transparency on those apps anyway. Like people have been saying, Terminal and Adium aren’t transparent out of the box. You have to configure it that way in the first place.

]]> By: Julian Bennett Holmes http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11801 Julian Bennett Holmes Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:38:58 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11801 The Homer Simpson widget is actually the Hula Girl widget - I set the preference to "Homer Simpson." It's available <a href="http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/justforfun/hulagirl.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. The Homer Simpson widget is actually the Hula Girl widget – I set the preference to “Homer Simpson.”

It’s available here.

]]> By: Me http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11800 Me Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:00:50 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11800 What widgets are displayed in the above screenshot? Specifically, where could I pick up that Homer Simpson widget? What widgets are displayed in the above screenshot? Specifically, where could I pick up that Homer Simpson widget?

]]> By: Mirri http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11799 Mirri Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:11:56 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11799 There's nothing wrong with transparency if you don't go over board with it. From the screenshot - well, that seems terribly overboard. Most things on my desktop are not transparent at all, but transparent terminal windows are my favorite. So useful for letting you see all the things you were fiddling with, and even easy to read if you set it to white text on a black background. There’s nothing wrong with transparency if you don’t go over board with it. From the screenshot – well, that seems terribly overboard. Most things on my desktop are not transparent at all, but transparent terminal windows are my favorite. So useful for letting you see all the things you were fiddling with, and even easy to read if you set it to white text on a black background.

]]> By: Mark 2000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11798 Mark 2000 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:50:01 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11798 The only place I hate transparency is in the pull down menus. Any way to get rid of that? The only place I hate transparency is in the pull down menus. Any way to get rid of that?

]]> By: Cliff L http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11797 Cliff L Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:41:23 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11797 Your screenshot is overload. My screen, on the other hand, is less see-through. Every man his own. Your screenshot is overload. My screen, on the other hand, is less see-through. Every man his own.

]]> By: bv http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11796 bv Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:56:50 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11796 sometimes i can't disagree more with the articles on this site. i have come very close to deleting it from my feeds but we'll see. of course we all have our opinions... i just notice that i find myself on the other side of the tracks more than not. to each his own. peace. bv. sometimes i can’t disagree more with the articles on this site. i have come very close to deleting it from my feeds but we’ll see.
of course we all have our opinions… i just notice that i find myself on the other side of the tracks more than not.
to each his own.
peace. bv.

]]> By: Brad http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11795 Brad Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:26:02 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11795 Like so many other useful and attractive elements, transparency is getting old because of it's heavy-handed use. BE SUBTLE! More is not always better. The purpose of your screen is to communicate. If you can't read the type in a window because it's set to 25% transparency, then you've missed the point. I'm with Gruff! Like so many other useful and attractive elements, transparency is getting old because of it’s heavy-handed use. BE SUBTLE! More is not always better. The purpose of your screen is to communicate. If you can’t read the type in a window because it’s set to 25% transparency, then you’ve missed the point.

I’m with Gruff!

]]> By: Matt J http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11794 Matt J Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:24:54 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11794 So use the default settings then. No one is forcing you to use transparency in applications with the options. So use the default settings then. No one is forcing you to use transparency in applications with the options.

]]> By: Steve http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11793 Steve Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:45:31 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11793 Yes, using more than 10-20% transparency in a Terminal window is just making it hard on your eyes. And yeah, it defaults to 100% opaque anyway, so that was your own fault for going crazy with the slider when you discovered it. :) Yes, using more than 10-20% transparency in a Terminal window is just making it hard on your eyes. And yeah, it defaults to 100% opaque anyway, so that was your own fault for going crazy with the slider when you discovered it. :)

]]> By: Gruff http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11792 Gruff Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:47:00 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11792 People often get enamored with transparency and use it too often and with settings too high. Here are some rules for transparency:    1. Use it only if it makes something easier    2. Limit your settings to 10%–25% transparent (90%–75% opaque)    3. The more important the information, the less transparency you should use    4. If you can change background color, use a very light or very dark color Mac OS X follows these rules in most places transparency is used—the dock is 75% opaque, menus are 90% opaque, the photo adjustment HUD is 75% opaque, pro app HUDs are 90% opaque; Exposé breaks the rules with a 10% opaque background. People often get enamored with transparency and use it too often and with settings too high. Here are some rules for transparency:

   1. Use it only if it makes something easier
   2. Limit your settings to 10%–25% transparent (90%–75% opaque)
   3. The more important the information, the less transparency you should use
   4. If you can change background color, use a very light or very dark color

Mac OS X follows these rules in most places transparency is used—the dock is 75% opaque, menus are 90% opaque, the photo adjustment HUD is 75% opaque, pro app HUDs are 90% opaque; Exposé breaks the rules with a 10% opaque background.

]]> By: Ken http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11791 Ken Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:14:14 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11791 I like it as long as it's used in a way that makes sense. In the Dashboard for example, it's harmless. It reminds you that your desktop is in a temporary state and you will have to "go back" at some time (such as opening a drawer with gadgets, use them and close the drawer again). Title bars, pop-up menus and open/save dialogs use a little transparency too, but only to maintain a pseudo-3D effect in your desktop. Compare OSX with Windows Vista, and you will realize that OSX is pretty much opaque. I like it as long as it’s used in a way that makes sense.

In the Dashboard for example, it’s harmless. It reminds you that your desktop is in a temporary state and you will have to “go back” at some time (such as opening a drawer with gadgets, use them and close the drawer again).

Title bars, pop-up menus and open/save dialogs use a little transparency too, but only to maintain a pseudo-3D effect in your desktop.

Compare OSX with Windows Vista, and you will realize that OSX is pretty much opaque.

]]> By: Matt http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11790 Matt Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:49:34 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11790 I'm not a fan of transparency-- there's a need for <i>something</i> that signals when a window is hidden, but transparency generates too much noise along with the signal. It's been pointed out before that paper manufacturers go to great lengths to prevent transparency-- I think they're on to something. I’m not a fan of transparency– there’s a need for something that signals when a window is hidden, but transparency generates too much noise along with the signal. It’s been pointed out before that paper manufacturers go to great lengths to prevent transparency– I think they’re on to something.

]]> By: Romain Guy http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11789 Romain Guy Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:05:06 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11789 Like every special effect, translucency must be used with care. For instance it makes sense in Growl but I would never enable it in Adium or Terminal. Like every special effect, translucency must be used with care. For instance it makes sense in Growl but I would never enable it in Adium or Terminal.

]]> By: Tyler Kieft http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11788 Tyler Kieft Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:00:22 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11788 I think that transparency is quite appropriate in the dock and the dashboard, where no text is directly on the transparent layer. I don't use it in Terminal or Adium, because of the reasons given in the article, but sometimes it looks nice in Terminal, depending on what kind of desktop background you have. I think that transparency is quite appropriate in the dock and the dashboard, where no text is directly on the transparent layer. I don’t use it in Terminal or Adium, because of the reasons given in the article, but sometimes it looks nice in Terminal, depending on what kind of desktop background you have.

]]> By: wph http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11787 wph Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:49:43 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11787 I thought I was the only one! Many new apps, like Disco and Voice Candy use it very unnecessarily. It has a purpose, to let you multitask, but it's pretty ugly if it's not needed. Unless there's a real reason that I absolutely need to see everything on the screen behind the window in question, then make it normal and let me move it if I have to. I thought I was the only one!
Many new apps, like Disco and Voice Candy use it very unnecessarily.
It has a purpose, to let you multitask, but it’s pretty ugly if it’s not needed.

Unless there’s a real reason that I absolutely need to see everything on the screen behind the window in question, then make it normal and let me move it if I have to.

]]> By: Paul Armstrong http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11786 Paul Armstrong Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:39:16 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/01/15/i-hate-transperency/#comment-11786 Only one of these applications is included in Mac OS X, so it is hard to agree with you that the OS is "littered" with transparency. Also, by default, the Terminal and Adium do not have transparency turned on. Only one of these applications is included in Mac OS X, so it is hard to agree with you that the OS is “littered” with transparency. Also, by default, the Terminal and Adium do not have transparency turned on.

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