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	<title>Comments on: Taking Mail&#8217;s Junk Filter for Granted</title>
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		<title>By: Lorie</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-122878</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm having a problem with my junk mail filter lately. The mail I get from a couple of sites such as Costco continue to break thru the filter no matter HOW often I mark them as 'junk'.  Anyone know why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having a problem with my junk mail filter lately. The mail I get from a couple of sites such as Costco continue to break thru the filter no matter HOW often I mark them as &#8216;junk&#8217;.  Anyone know why?</p>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-107035</link>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac's filter sucks.  Lets way too much through.  But it's better than nothing.

One question.  How can I filter mail on my iPhone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac&#8217;s filter sucks.  Lets way too much through.  But it&#8217;s better than nothing.</p>
<p>One question.  How can I filter mail on my iPhone?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Simpson</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102680</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't be the only one that thinks the spam filter in Apple Mail is a freaking joke, can I?  I used to get false negatives &lt;em&gt;every day&lt;/em&gt; before I finally got fed up and installed SpamSieve.

I found that the Apple one was slower and required a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; more training, and even after all that training spam would still get through to my inbox.

I get anywhere from 20 to 40 spam messages a day, similar to John Davis above, but if I see one get through SpamSieve to my inbox in a week then that's a bad week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t be the only one that thinks the spam filter in Apple Mail is a freaking joke, can I?  I used to get false negatives <em>every day</em> before I finally got fed up and installed SpamSieve.</p>
<p>I found that the Apple one was slower and required a <em>lot</em> more training, and even after all that training spam would still get through to my inbox.</p>
<p>I get anywhere from 20 to 40 spam messages a day, similar to John Davis above, but if I see one get through SpamSieve to my inbox in a week then that&#8217;s a bad week.</p>
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		<title>By: Honza</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102582</link>
		<dc:creator>Honza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never got much spam until some sicko windows luser got a worm in his inbox. 

I tried Gmail recently, but I only sent 1 email from it as a test. When I logged in the next day there were 100's of spam mails in the spam folder. So, it seems that Gmail give out your email address to anyone right? No thanks, I'll stick with Yahoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never got much spam until some sicko windows luser got a worm in his inbox. </p>
<p>I tried Gmail recently, but I only sent 1 email from it as a test. When I logged in the next day there were 100&#8217;s of spam mails in the spam folder. So, it seems that Gmail give out your email address to anyone right? No thanks, I&#8217;ll stick with Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: John Davis</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102563</link>
		<dc:creator>John Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. The junk filter in mail is excellent. I regularly get 30/40 a day and only about once a week does something find its way through. 

John Davis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The junk filter in mail is excellent. I regularly get 30/40 a day and only about once a week does something find its way through. </p>
<p>John Davis</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102561</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One account I have in Mail.app never used to get spam at all. Now it does, although I've never posted the address anywhere on the web and only ever given it to family and friends. Oh, well, I suppose it only takes one Windows-using acquaintence to get infected, and the malware on their machine will vaccuum up any mail addresses stored on it ...

To get to the point, I find the spam I'm currently getting is all image spam, and it goes right through Mail.app's spam filter. Presumably, "latent semantic analysis" -- the method Mail.app's built-in filter uses -- is not very good with image spam. Maybe a bayesian spam filter, like SpamSieve or Bogofilter, would do better. But I'm not sure I want to pay up for SpamSieve, and getting Bogofilter compiled and running on OS X sound a little hit-and-miss from what I've read. At the moment I'm using a manual filter to deal with image spam as described here:

http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/04/a-mail-app-rule-for-catching-image-spam/

But that is a bit of a kludge and is going to result in false positives. It's a nuisance. It seems Mail.app's filter can't cope with image spam, and that's now so prevalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One account I have in Mail.app never used to get spam at all. Now it does, although I&#8217;ve never posted the address anywhere on the web and only ever given it to family and friends. Oh, well, I suppose it only takes one Windows-using acquaintence to get infected, and the malware on their machine will vaccuum up any mail addresses stored on it &#8230;</p>
<p>To get to the point, I find the spam I&#8217;m currently getting is all image spam, and it goes right through Mail.app&#8217;s spam filter. Presumably, &#8220;latent semantic analysis&#8221; &#8212; the method Mail.app&#8217;s built-in filter uses &#8212; is not very good with image spam. Maybe a bayesian spam filter, like SpamSieve or Bogofilter, would do better. But I&#8217;m not sure I want to pay up for SpamSieve, and getting Bogofilter compiled and running on OS X sound a little hit-and-miss from what I&#8217;ve read. At the moment I&#8217;m using a manual filter to deal with image spam as described here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/04/a-mail-app-rule-for-catching-image-spam/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/04/a-mail-app-rule-for-catching-image-spam/</a></p>
<p>But that is a bit of a kludge and is going to result in false positives. It&#8217;s a nuisance. It seems Mail.app&#8217;s filter can&#8217;t cope with image spam, and that&#8217;s now so prevalent.</p>
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		<title>By: mic</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102534</link>
		<dc:creator>mic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gmail and Yahoo! mail both have great spam filters--I read .Mac, gmail and Yahoo mail on my blackberry and get very little spam forwarded. But like Galley above, I get very little spam on my .Mac account--that's because I don't use it to buy stuff (except iTunes or the Apple store). Most of my spam goes to gmail or Yahoo (which I have had forever) and gets filtered out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmail and Yahoo! mail both have great spam filters&#8211;I read .Mac, gmail and Yahoo mail on my blackberry and get very little spam forwarded. But like Galley above, I get very little spam on my .Mac account&#8211;that&#8217;s because I don&#8217;t use it to buy stuff (except iTunes or the Apple store). Most of my spam goes to gmail or Yahoo (which I have had forever) and gets filtered out</p>
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		<title>By: Galley</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102533</link>
		<dc:creator>Galley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I'm lucky, but I have yet to receive any spam on my .Mac account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m lucky, but I have yet to receive any spam on my .Mac account.</p>
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		<title>By: pacificdave</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102526</link>
		<dc:creator>pacificdave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the above "Gmail's spam filter is the best."  If I can recall correctly... Over the last 3 months and about 4,500 spam messages later only about 3 showed up in my inbox.  It's quite sick actually.  I'm not a fan boy by no means but can you really beat that for a free webmail provider?  Gmail all the way man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above &#8220;Gmail&#8217;s spam filter is the best.&#8221;  If I can recall correctly&#8230; Over the last 3 months and about 4,500 spam messages later only about 3 showed up in my inbox.  It&#8217;s quite sick actually.  I&#8217;m not a fan boy by no means but can you really beat that for a free webmail provider?  Gmail all the way man.</p>
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		<title>By: roblef dot com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-03-03</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102524</link>
		<dc:creator>roblef dot com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-03-03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Taking Mail’s Junk Filter for Granted (tags: mail apple junkmail work) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kris Jones</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102523</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always found JunkMatcher to be a valuable addition to Mail:app's own filtering. It's extremely accurate from the moment its plug-in and rules are installed. In particular, it's good at catching those messages that now come in the form of a TIFF or JPEG file. 

JunkMatcher also changes the Message drop-down menu in the menu bar to include an option to "Train as Ham" those messages that you don't want filtered into the Junk mailbox. Overall it's saved me considerable time in training Mail:app's own filters and setting up my own rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always found JunkMatcher to be a valuable addition to Mail:app&#8217;s own filtering. It&#8217;s extremely accurate from the moment its plug-in and rules are installed. In particular, it&#8217;s good at catching those messages that now come in the form of a TIFF or JPEG file. </p>
<p>JunkMatcher also changes the Message drop-down menu in the menu bar to include an option to &#8220;Train as Ham&#8221; those messages that you don&#8217;t want filtered into the Junk mailbox. Overall it&#8217;s saved me considerable time in training Mail:app&#8217;s own filters and setting up my own rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102522</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GMail's spam filter is the best. 

It has let 2 spam messages through, and correctly marked about 6000 messages. No valid messages have been marked as spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMail&#8217;s spam filter is the best. </p>
<p>It has let 2 spam messages through, and correctly marked about 6000 messages. No valid messages have been marked as spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Gray</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102521</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathaniel, at the office we have an enterprise-level spam filter which catches a ton of it, but it's not perfect. Each day, I get a note that hundreds of e-mails were blocked, and I have the option to review them to see if a real message was inadvertently caught. For those that pass that filter, Mail.app does its best for the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathaniel, at the office we have an enterprise-level spam filter which catches a ton of it, but it&#8217;s not perfect. Each day, I get a note that hundreds of e-mails were blocked, and I have the option to review them to see if a real message was inadvertently caught. For those that pass that filter, Mail.app does its best for the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not get a modern email setup with IMAP and server-side filtering, so that you miss the spam regardless of how you access mail? Between constantly updated SpamAssassin and a few custom rules, I only get a handful of spams a day on an account that has been active and publicised on web, newsgroups, etc for almost 15 years.

You also get the added bonus of everything being organized before even logging in, and knowing that it will be organized regardless of what program or method you're using to check mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not get a modern email setup with IMAP and server-side filtering, so that you miss the spam regardless of how you access mail? Between constantly updated SpamAssassin and a few custom rules, I only get a handful of spams a day on an account that has been active and publicised on web, newsgroups, etc for almost 15 years.</p>
<p>You also get the added bonus of everything being organized before even logging in, and knowing that it will be organized regardless of what program or method you&#8217;re using to check mail.</p>
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		<title>By: blogotip &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Junk Mail</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/02/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-102518</link>
		<dc:creator>blogotip &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Junk Mail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to just use webmail to login to my personal email account during work - but I spent so much time sifting through junk emails that I couldn't take it anymore.  

So now I just leave my Mac on at home with Mail.App open so that it filters my email.  And since I have IMAP set up, those junk mail messages are filtered away by the time I login to webmail.  Bye bye junk mail!  Hello Mail.App!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to just use webmail to login to my personal email account during work - but I spent so much time sifting through junk emails that I couldn&#8217;t take it anymore.  </p>
<p>So now I just leave my Mac on at home with Mail.App open so that it filters my email.  And since I have IMAP set up, those junk mail messages are filtered away by the time I login to webmail.  Bye bye junk mail!  Hello Mail.App!</p>
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