Comments on: Apple TV and Old TVs – A Possible Hack http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:49:43 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Dino Orlando http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-65548 Dino Orlando Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:58:27 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-65548 Update: With the new TV 3.0.1 Update (Nov 2009), you need to skip a Step. Don't Press Play on Remote!! Do everything else decribed in above Comments, except don't Press Play on Remote. Update: With the new TV 3.0.1 Update (Nov 2009), you need to skip a Step. Don’t Press Play on Remote!! Do everything else decribed in above Comments, except don’t Press Play on Remote.

]]> By: Crazykiwiman http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-58090 Crazykiwiman Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:55:26 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-58090 this works great no at extra costs!!! this works great no at extra costs!!!

]]> By: zkdog http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-49907 zkdog Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:36:20 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-49907 This as well. # PC VGA SVGA to HDTV RGB Ypbpr Video Component Cable. # VGA male to RGB Ypbpr + Video male. This as well. # PC VGA SVGA to HDTV RGB Ypbpr Video Component Cable.
# VGA male to RGB Ypbpr + Video male.

]]> By: zkdog http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-49902 zkdog Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:19:38 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-49902 What about using an S-Video to Component cable? Wouldn't that work? What about using an S-Video to Component cable? Wouldn’t that work?

]]> By: tom http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-42245 tom Sat, 16 May 2009 16:19:59 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-42245 There is a software solution available now that works. Here's the details http://patchstick.wikispaces.com/Composite+video There is a software solution available now that works.
Here’s the details

http://patchstick.wikispaces.com/Composite+video

]]> By: Yoruba Movies http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-34930 Yoruba Movies Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:45:25 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-34930 There is obviously a lot to know about this. I think you made some good points.Keep working ,great job! There is obviously a lot to know about this. I think you made some good points.Keep working ,great job!

]]> By: Immunoame http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-33621 Immunoame Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:07:08 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-33621 29 works, but there is an easier way. All you need is an HDMI female to DVI male adaptor and a paperclip. You can buy both for under $5. If you plug your visual a/v cable to the green slot on the ATV you get b/w. What you need to do is work around the blue slot. Unwind your paperclip and connect one end to port 16 and the other end to 14 on the HDMI side of the adaptor. Wikipedia it if you want a good diagram. Plug the adaptor in. Remove the yellow visual cable from the back of the ATV. Wait 5-10 seconds. Plug the a/v cable back in. Remove the DVI plug. You should have color now. If you don't then you weren't getting metal to metal contact from 14 to 16. Try again. You have to do this every time you lose power, but it works fine and I have continuously upgraded. 29 works, but there is an easier way. All you need is an HDMI female to DVI male adaptor and a paperclip. You can buy both for under $5. If you plug your visual a/v cable to the green slot on the ATV you get b/w. What you need to do is work around the blue slot. Unwind your paperclip and connect one end to port 16 and the other end to 14 on the HDMI side of the adaptor. Wikipedia it if you want a good diagram. Plug the adaptor in. Remove the yellow visual cable from the back of the ATV. Wait 5-10 seconds. Plug the a/v cable back in. Remove the DVI plug. You should have color now. If you don’t then you weren’t getting metal to metal contact from 14 to 16. Try again. You have to do this every time you lose power, but it works fine and I have continuously upgraded.

]]> By: Forester Hudd http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-32029 Forester Hudd Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:18:08 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-32029 I usually don’t post in Blogs but your blog forced me to, amazing work.. beautiful …

]]> By: Kevin http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-31280 Kevin Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:53:03 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-31280 I wanted to connect an apple TV YPbPr output to my older TV which only has SCART inputs. I found the perfect converter which converts component YUV/YPbPr to RGB. It has both SCART and VGA (Computer Video Connector) output connectors, so you can connect it to both your TV and your computer/projector display. According to the write up it works for PAL and NTSC and you can even route stereo audio through it to the SCART if you havn't got a surround sound audio system. The part No is JP-COMPONENT2RGB and the details are on http://www.electrashop.com/formatconverter.htm Quote from the description "PERFECT SOLUTION FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLE TV BUT DO NOT HAVE COMPONENT ON THEIR TV SET. WORKS FOR X-BOX 360 AND PLAYSTATION 3 ,WII ETC. TOO." Price at writing is £84.50NC VAT + £7.05 p&p UK and they will ship internationally. I got it on next day delivery and it works perfectly. Its a really easy cabling solution for me too. I'm just about to e-mail the company to say how delighted I am with their converter. I wanted to connect an apple TV YPbPr output to my older TV which only has SCART inputs.

I found the perfect converter which converts component YUV/YPbPr to RGB. It has both SCART and VGA (Computer Video Connector) output connectors, so you can connect it to both your TV and your computer/projector display. According to the write up it works for PAL and NTSC and you can even route stereo audio through it to the SCART if you havn’t got a surround sound audio system.

The part No is JP-COMPONENT2RGB and the details are on

http://www.electrashop.com/formatconverter.htm

Quote from the description “PERFECT SOLUTION FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLE TV BUT DO NOT HAVE COMPONENT ON THEIR TV SET. WORKS FOR X-BOX 360 AND PLAYSTATION 3 ,WII ETC. TOO.”

Price at writing is £84.50NC VAT + £7.05 p&p UK and they will ship internationally.

I got it on next day delivery and it works perfectly. Its a really easy cabling solution for me too. I’m just about to e-mail the company to say how delighted I am with their converter.

]]> By: Major http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14296 Major Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:25:42 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14296 @ #29 Does this continue to work after restarting the aTV or do i need to do this each time i want? Its ok for me but will be a show stopper for the Wife and Kids... Good job to Dave all the same... but bit peeved, finally got the aTV, only to find my Plasma only had DVI, Scart, RGB composite, VGA.... Doh! I was green on the difference between composite and component.... Thx Major @ #29

Does this continue to work after restarting the aTV or do i need to do this each time i want? Its ok for me but will be a show stopper for the Wife and Kids…

Good job to Dave all the same… but bit peeved, finally got the aTV, only to find my Plasma only had DVI, Scart, RGB composite, VGA…. Doh! I was green on the difference between composite and component….

Thx

Major

]]> By: I Love Shopping http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14295 I Love Shopping Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:11:57 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14295 The only solution I came up with is I got a new tv under monthly financing....found an online shopping site that offers online financing for big ticket items. I.E. tvs, golf clubs, jewelry...check it out. The only solution I came up with is I got a new tv under monthly financing….found an online shopping site that offers online financing for big ticket items. I.E. tvs, golf clubs, jewelry…check it out.

]]> By: Dave Hairs http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14294 Dave Hairs Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:53:33 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14294 Glad people have found post 29 useful. Thanks also to Nick in post 35 confirming that it works with version 2.0. In response to Micah in post 39, I think it's unlikely that this will work. The important thing to be aware of is that the specification of the DVI interface allows it to carry either analogue or digital signals. An HDMI to DVI converter will work for digital signals. A DVI to VGA converter will work for analogue signals. Such converters will not normally do a conversion for you though. You will also probably find that the connectors do not physically fit together in your example. There are three different types of DVI connector - analogue, digital and combined. They all look very similar but they are not identical. That is why you need to do some hacking with pliers in my method in post 29. Hope this helps. Dave Glad people have found post 29 useful. Thanks also to Nick in post 35 confirming that it works with version 2.0.

In response to Micah in post 39, I think it’s unlikely that this will work. The important thing to be aware of is that the specification of the DVI interface allows it to carry either analogue or digital signals.

An HDMI to DVI converter will work for digital signals. A DVI to VGA converter will work for analogue signals. Such converters will not normally do a conversion for you though. You will also probably find that the connectors do not physically fit together in your example. There are three different types of DVI connector – analogue, digital and combined. They all look very similar but they are not identical. That is why you need to do some hacking with pliers in my method in post 29.

Hope this helps.

Dave

]]> By: Micah Greene http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14293 Micah Greene Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:50:14 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14293 #29 you rock!!! #29 you rock!!!

]]> By: Micah Greene http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14292 Micah Greene Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:21:39 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14292 Addition to post #39 3) this is RCA or S-Video Addition to post #39
3) this is RCA or S-Video

]]> By: Micah Greene http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14291 Micah Greene Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:19:22 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14291 What about this setup? 1) HDMI to DVI http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=4413266 2) DVI to VGA http://www.mwave.com/mwave/Skusearch.hmx?scriteria=BA19763 3) VGA to S-Video http://cgi.ebay.com/VGA-to-TV-S-Video-RCA-AV-OUT-Converter-Adapter-Cable_W0QQitemZ370061792138QQcmdZViewItem Would you still have to follow post #29? What about this setup?
1) HDMI to DVI
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=4413266

2) DVI to VGA
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/Skusearch.hmx?scriteria=BA19763

3) VGA to S-Video
http://cgi.ebay.com/VGA-to-TV-S-Video-RCA-AV-OUT-Converter-Adapter-Cable_W0QQitemZ370061792138QQcmdZViewItem

Would you still have to follow post #29?

]]> By: Cesar http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14289 Cesar Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:11:45 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14289 oddjob, thanks for the advise. I end up selling it and will wait for a better time to buy a nice widescreen and take all the advantages of the Apple TV. oddjob, thanks for the advise. I end up selling it and will wait for a better time to buy a nice widescreen and take all the advantages of the Apple TV.

]]> By: oddjob http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14288 oddjob Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:34:49 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14288 @Cesar I have a Sony Trinitron Tv and the svideo adapter. The Appletv picture is perfect. I've been using it for month, with no problems. @Cesar

I have a Sony Trinitron Tv and the svideo adapter. The Appletv picture is perfect. I’ve been using it for month, with no problems.

]]> By: Cesar http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14287 Cesar Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:43:04 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14287 I just bought an Apple TV and want to use it on an old Sony CRT TV with component, S video and composite inputs. The problem is that the TV shows squished images when I connect the Apple TV to the Component inputs. Do you know if the Svideo.com Apple TV Converter fix this squeashing issue? There are contradictory comments above on the converter and do not want to buy it if it won't fix the issue. Thanks I just bought an Apple TV and want to use it on an old Sony CRT TV with component, S video and composite inputs. The problem is that the TV shows squished images when I connect the Apple TV to the Component inputs.

Do you know if the Svideo.com Apple TV Converter fix this squeashing issue?

There are contradictory comments above on the converter and do not want to buy it if it won’t fix the issue.

Thanks

]]> By: Nick http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14290 Nick Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:48:23 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14290 I can confirm i have Dave Hairs method working with software version 2.0. thanks dave. I can confirm i have Dave Hairs method working with software version 2.0.

thanks dave.

]]> By: oddjob http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14286 oddjob Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:27:19 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/03/22/apple-tv-and-old-tvs-a-possible-hack/#comment-14286 FYI 03/15/08 I purchased the svideo converter and it works great. I see the appletv 2.0 menu. appletv -> Svideo Converter -> old SD tv http://www.svideo.com/appletv2tv.html FYI 03/15/08

I purchased the svideo converter and it works great. I see the appletv 2.0 menu.

appletv -> Svideo Converter -> old SD tv
http://www.svideo.com/appletv2tv.html

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