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	<title>Comments on: Weird Mozy Experience</title>
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		<title>By: Marsha B</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-122745</link>
		<dc:creator>Marsha B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I really thought that i was a minority in my dislike for mozy. You hear about how huge they have grown and what a great product they have. The truth is that it has plenty of room for improvement. I used Mozy for a little over 8 months and I must say that I was just not impressed at all. My backups got hung up, and when they did work, the time it took to get it all worked out was just a little ridiculous. I got my money back, but i was a little put out by all the hassle. As a writer, I am relying on my backup service to do it's job.  Anyways, I found a new provider. Backupmax Online offers the standard backup features, plus they have this very cool security suite that can pinpoint the location of your laptop without the use of a gps device. It has a couple of other very nice features, but what i like most about it - is 1) it works and 2) its as easy to set up as easy can be. Tech support was on hand to help and customer service was very polite. I definitely recommend it to anyone who has been burned by a backup experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I really thought that i was a minority in my dislike for mozy. You hear about how huge they have grown and what a great product they have. The truth is that it has plenty of room for improvement. I used Mozy for a little over 8 months and I must say that I was just not impressed at all. My backups got hung up, and when they did work, the time it took to get it all worked out was just a little ridiculous. I got my money back, but i was a little put out by all the hassle. As a writer, I am relying on my backup service to do it&#8217;s job.  Anyways, I found a new provider. Backupmax Online offers the standard backup features, plus they have this very cool security suite that can pinpoint the location of your laptop without the use of a gps device. It has a couple of other very nice features, but what i like most about it - is 1) it works and 2) its as easy to set up as easy can be. Tech support was on hand to help and customer service was very polite. I definitely recommend it to anyone who has been burned by a backup experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H.</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-119281</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is Beta... but they are charging premium prices for something that DID NOT WORK for the majority of users that I personally know have tried it. 

After working with them for about 2 months, I gave up, and asked for a refund. They did eventually get it to me. 

This wasn't worth the bother. I don't mind helping someone on Beta software, and helping work out a few kinds...  but not uninstalling and re-installing and never getting a product that EVER worked, was really quite bad. It is not ready for prime time, period. 

I found their tech support to be fairly slow, although once I got the direct email of a support staff person, it was better. 

I say, avoid it. 

CH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is Beta&#8230; but they are charging premium prices for something that DID NOT WORK for the majority of users that I personally know have tried it. </p>
<p>After working with them for about 2 months, I gave up, and asked for a refund. They did eventually get it to me. </p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t worth the bother. I don&#8217;t mind helping someone on Beta software, and helping work out a few kinds&#8230;  but not uninstalling and re-installing and never getting a product that EVER worked, was really quite bad. It is not ready for prime time, period. </p>
<p>I found their tech support to be fairly slow, although once I got the direct email of a support staff person, it was better. </p>
<p>I say, avoid it. </p>
<p>CH</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-119265</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it's beta, so I am OK with a few bumps here and there.

My bump... when I launched Mozy for the first time I was able to complete the setup process, but after 8hours running the initial backup, nothing was uploaded. I worked through the firewall suggestions I found on the web and tried again. It's 2 days later. I have put a considerable         number of hours into fiddling, and now I can't find the progress window.

I tried the 2 solutions for status window and neither worked for me. 

Is anyone else out there having this problem, or ... better yet, worked around it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it&#8217;s beta, so I am OK with a few bumps here and there.</p>
<p>My bump&#8230; when I launched Mozy for the first time I was able to complete the setup process, but after 8hours running the initial backup, nothing was uploaded. I worked through the firewall suggestions I found on the web and tried again. It&#8217;s 2 days later. I have put a considerable         number of hours into fiddling, and now I can&#8217;t find the progress window.</p>
<p>I tried the 2 solutions for status window and neither worked for me. </p>
<p>Is anyone else out there having this problem, or &#8230; better yet, worked around it?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-115709</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mozy for Mac has been a nightmare for me. I have a very high-speed DSL connection, a new MacBook Pro, and Leopard. I also used it on a Powerbook running Tiger. 

My first tech support request, which came within a day of using it, went unresponded to for about 5 days. That was not the only time an inordinate delay for tech support occurred. 

But the main problem was, the software just did NOT work! I signed up at the end of January, and here in early April, Mozy has not succeeded in backing up my 60 GB of data! I have had it running several times daily. The software kept quitting, or connecting but failing to actually upload anything. I exchanged email with multiple tech support people, and went through about 5 upgrades, each upgrade promising to fix the problem that was stopping me from uploading data. 

I cancelled today after an upgrade to the most recent version failed to work at all, despite several uninstall/reinstall procedures. 

IMHO, Mozy for Mac is not even reliable enough to qualify for a Beta test status. I do personally know ONE Mozy for Mac user for whom this actually seems to work. He is happy. But it seems possible from internet reviews that he is in the minority. 

In response to my repeated attempts to problem-solve for Mozy, they extended my contract by 2 months, for free. But I found that the amount of time I was spending trying to get Mozy to work was not worth "free," even. 

Good luck to Mozy, and I hope they get their sluggish technical support times improved, and that someday they have a product worthy of marketing to the Mac community. We Mac users expect better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mozy for Mac has been a nightmare for me. I have a very high-speed DSL connection, a new MacBook Pro, and Leopard. I also used it on a Powerbook running Tiger. </p>
<p>My first tech support request, which came within a day of using it, went unresponded to for about 5 days. That was not the only time an inordinate delay for tech support occurred. </p>
<p>But the main problem was, the software just did NOT work! I signed up at the end of January, and here in early April, Mozy has not succeeded in backing up my 60 GB of data! I have had it running several times daily. The software kept quitting, or connecting but failing to actually upload anything. I exchanged email with multiple tech support people, and went through about 5 upgrades, each upgrade promising to fix the problem that was stopping me from uploading data. </p>
<p>I cancelled today after an upgrade to the most recent version failed to work at all, despite several uninstall/reinstall procedures. </p>
<p>IMHO, Mozy for Mac is not even reliable enough to qualify for a Beta test status. I do personally know ONE Mozy for Mac user for whom this actually seems to work. He is happy. But it seems possible from internet reviews that he is in the minority. </p>
<p>In response to my repeated attempts to problem-solve for Mozy, they extended my contract by 2 months, for free. But I found that the amount of time I was spending trying to get Mozy to work was not worth &#8220;free,&#8221; even. </p>
<p>Good luck to Mozy, and I hope they get their sluggish technical support times improved, and that someday they have a product worthy of marketing to the Mac community. We Mac users expect better.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-114447</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to say Mozy beta did not work for me. After It Took me 3 weeks to backup 42 Gigs to the Mozy server, It took less than a minute to disappear from the server. No idea where it went, may have lost it during the countless re-installs.  Staying away from beta for now. To many bugs. Too bad,
it looked promising at the beginning.

Greg C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to say Mozy beta did not work for me. After It Took me 3 weeks to backup 42 Gigs to the Mozy server, It took less than a minute to disappear from the server. No idea where it went, may have lost it during the countless re-installs.  Staying away from beta for now. To many bugs. Too bad,<br />
it looked promising at the beginning.</p>
<p>Greg C</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Crowell</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-109470</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have OSX Tiger, and tried Mozy about 4 months ago with no luck, but after uninstalling it with AppZapper, every few weeks I notice the Mozy icon/app is BACK IN MY APPS FOLDER- there must be some checking tool on the system somewhere that is downloading updated versions or something.  Sounds spyware-ish to me- what's up with that Mozy?  I don't want your app anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have OSX Tiger, and tried Mozy about 4 months ago with no luck, but after uninstalling it with AppZapper, every few weeks I notice the Mozy icon/app is BACK IN MY APPS FOLDER- there must be some checking tool on the system somewhere that is downloading updated versions or something.  Sounds spyware-ish to me- what&#8217;s up with that Mozy?  I don&#8217;t want your app anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Johnson</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-107710</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These issues seem to be fixed in recent releases (since 0.5.1).  The latest release (0.6.0 as of this writing) even adds bandwidth throttling.  

But we are talking about beta software here, so be careful.  Check out &lt;a href="http://el-studio.com/article/online-backups" rel="nofollow"&gt;the cautions in this blog post&lt;/a&gt; for how to do just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These issues seem to be fixed in recent releases (since 0.5.1).  The latest release (0.6.0 as of this writing) even adds bandwidth throttling.  </p>
<p>But we are talking about beta software here, so be careful.  Check out <a href="http://el-studio.com/article/online-backups" rel="nofollow">the cautions in this blog post</a> for how to do just that.</p>
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		<title>By: seth godin</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-107014</link>
		<dc:creator>seth godin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I found this thread. I thought I was crazy. I ended up uninstalling Mozy and my Mac seems a lot better so far. My problem was that Google Reader and Newsfire (and other things that seemed to use a bunch of java, but what do I know) would get slower and slower and it eventually took as long as 6 seconds to switch from one app to another. Then Firefox would freeze.

I tried everything I could think of (prefs, cache, etc.) that didn't require actual geekiness. Finally, ripped out Mozy. Fine so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I found this thread. I thought I was crazy. I ended up uninstalling Mozy and my Mac seems a lot better so far. My problem was that Google Reader and Newsfire (and other things that seemed to use a bunch of java, but what do I know) would get slower and slower and it eventually took as long as 6 seconds to switch from one app to another. Then Firefox would freeze.</p>
<p>I tried everything I could think of (prefs, cache, etc.) that didn&#8217;t require actual geekiness. Finally, ripped out Mozy. Fine so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Mozy Backup for Mac - v0.5.1 Review &#171; Conor Hunt&#8217;s Tech Blog</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-106824</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozy Backup for Mac - v0.5.1 Review &#171; Conor Hunt&#8217;s Tech Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Mac 0.4 beta got bad reviews, so I decided to pass. The next version, 0.5, however got better reviews and so I downloaded it to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Mac 0.4 beta got bad reviews, so I decided to pass. The next version, 0.5, however got better reviews and so I downloaded it to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-106131</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the perpetual "verifying" problem as well. I re-selected my backup set, and it cleared the message up. It still reverts to verifying every now and again but it seems legit, e.g. it resumes backing up after a while. I'm most of the way through my 20GB backup, things have been pretty smooth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the perpetual &#8220;verifying&#8221; problem as well. I re-selected my backup set, and it cleared the message up. It still reverts to verifying every now and again but it seems legit, e.g. it resumes backing up after a while. I&#8217;m most of the way through my 20GB backup, things have been pretty smooth.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve S.</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-106091</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same issues with Mozy, it was recommended by a Windows only friend. I uninstalled it and found BackupRight ( http://www.backupright.com/ ) they have a Mac OS X client and it has worked very time I've needed to restore a file back. Its a bit more monthly than Mozy, but hell... its worth every penny to get your files back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same issues with Mozy, it was recommended by a Windows only friend. I uninstalled it and found BackupRight ( <a href="http://www.backupright.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.backupright.com/</a> ) they have a Mac OS X client and it has worked very time I&#8217;ve needed to restore a file back. Its a bit more monthly than Mozy, but hell&#8230; its worth every penny to get your files back.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-106070</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used mozy once.  Backed up fine.  650mb.
I wanted to restore one folder - 388kb (tiny) and it took TWO DAYS to process the restore!

I have uninstalled it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used mozy once.  Backed up fine.  650mb.<br />
I wanted to restore one folder - 388kb (tiny) and it took TWO DAYS to process the restore!</p>
<p>I have uninstalled it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-106004</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started receiving the "Too many computers on account" error after two months of roughly successful operation, even though this is the only computer that has Mozy installed.  Support said that this is a common problem with the current version and that I would have to wait two weeks for the new version to be released--no backups until then.  Mac Mozy is certainly not ready to be your primary backup solution.  If you're thinking of paying for the service, wait until they release a production version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started receiving the &#8220;Too many computers on account&#8221; error after two months of roughly successful operation, even though this is the only computer that has Mozy installed.  Support said that this is a common problem with the current version and that I would have to wait two weeks for the new version to be released&#8211;no backups until then.  Mac Mozy is certainly not ready to be your primary backup solution.  If you&#8217;re thinking of paying for the service, wait until they release a production version.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-105705</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing with Mac Mozy 0.4.1.1 - I tried to back up ~40GB, but it would never get beyond ~25 GB before reverting to “Verifying…” with the hard drive monitor showing constant read/write for days. The reported storage on mozy.com would drop from ~25GB to under 1GB and slowly climb as it “verified” (Send bit rate = 0 kb/s), but after many weeks it could not complete the backup set. It just kept repeating this cycle. Reports to BDS came back with an auto-thanks email but no request for additional information. Beta is beta but it didn't work well enough. I canceled. Too bad. No-brainer offsite backup would be ideal. Maybe I'll try again next year if I don't find something better first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing with Mac Mozy 0.4.1.1 - I tried to back up ~40GB, but it would never get beyond ~25 GB before reverting to “Verifying…” with the hard drive monitor showing constant read/write for days. The reported storage on mozy.com would drop from ~25GB to under 1GB and slowly climb as it “verified” (Send bit rate = 0 kb/s), but after many weeks it could not complete the backup set. It just kept repeating this cycle. Reports to BDS came back with an auto-thanks email but no request for additional information. Beta is beta but it didn&#8217;t work well enough. I canceled. Too bad. No-brainer offsite backup would be ideal. Maybe I&#8217;ll try again next year if I don&#8217;t find something better first.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-105411</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you would like an extra 256MB of storage on top of the 2GB (which will also give me the same), you can use my referral link here:

https://mozy.com/?ref=CQC6RC

or alternatively just enter the code CQC6RC by hand during the registration process.

Also, if you use my code, I will travel to wherever you live and give you a hug*.

*Hugs valid only for redemption within the greater Reading area of England. All others will receive a mental 'air hug' which will make you feel all warm and gooey inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you would like an extra 256MB of storage on top of the 2GB (which will also give me the same), you can use my referral link here:</p>
<p><a href="https://mozy.com/?ref=CQC6RC" rel="nofollow">https://mozy.com/?ref=CQC6RC</a></p>
<p>or alternatively just enter the code CQC6RC by hand during the registration process.</p>
<p>Also, if you use my code, I will travel to wherever you live and give you a hug*.</p>
<p>*Hugs valid only for redemption within the greater Reading area of England. All others will receive a mental &#8216;air hug&#8217; which will make you feel all warm and gooey inside.</p>
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		<title>By: GigaOM &#187; The Saturday Reader</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-105190</link>
		<dc:creator>GigaOM &#187; The Saturday Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] People are having weird Mozy experiences. There are issues with the back-up service. For the D.I.Y. crowd, Ian Bell has a primer that can result in backup bliss. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] People are having weird Mozy experiences. There are issues with the back-up service. For the D.I.Y. crowd, Ian Bell has a primer that can result in backup bliss. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GigaOM &#187; The Saturday Reader</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-105189</link>
		<dc:creator>GigaOM &#187; The Saturday Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] People are having weird Mozy experiences. There are issues with the back-up service. For the D.I.Y. crowd, Ian Bell has a primer that can result in backup bliss. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] People are having weird Mozy experiences. There are issues with the back-up service. For the D.I.Y. crowd, Ian Bell has a primer that can result in backup bliss. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: josh coates</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104987</link>
		<dc:creator>josh coates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like Si said - we really do mean "Beta" when we say it. We're happy when people use it without problems, but we're even happier when people that have problems give us details of what happened so we can make Mac Mozy even more awesome.

here's an update on where we're at with these issues:

&#62; disk space being eaten up like crazy:

It looks like there are two problems here:

1) the log file (/var/log/mozy.log) is being filled up with a lot of log lines. We're actively looking at this problem. if someone could send to macsupport@mozy.com the last 1MB or so of one of these runaway logs, it would definitely help us figure out what's going on. under normal usage, the log file should never get above a couple MB, and is rotated regularly. (thanks Elan for sending the relevant lines from your log in.)

2) mozy is using too much tmp space. Under normal conditions, Mozy does not use very much disk space at all during backups. it does NOT need as much tmp space as everything you're backing up. you know that tmp space is the issue (and not the log file) if rebooting your Mac frees up the space. if this is happening to you, please let support know. i've directed support to escalate these cases directly to the engineers.

&#62; tomas (Mozy crashes at config): please send us the crashdump so we can see where the crash is happening.

&#62; peter (doesn't see all files in folder): this is a known problem that should be fixed in one of the next releases.

&#62; stephen (not running as admin): we know about this one as well and will address it soon.

&#62; jonathan (stalls at 75.3%): Please contact macsupport@mozy.com so we can figure out why it's stalling.

thank you everyone for the great feedback, both positive and negative.  we will likely release an upgraded beta later this week.  this kind of feedback from the community really helps us get to RC quality.

-josh
Josh Coates
Founder,CEO
Berkeley Data Systems, Inc (Mozy/MozyPro)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like Si said - we really do mean &#8220;Beta&#8221; when we say it. We&#8217;re happy when people use it without problems, but we&#8217;re even happier when people that have problems give us details of what happened so we can make Mac Mozy even more awesome.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s an update on where we&#8217;re at with these issues:</p>
<p>&gt; disk space being eaten up like crazy:</p>
<p>It looks like there are two problems here:</p>
<p>1) the log file (/var/log/mozy.log) is being filled up with a lot of log lines. We&#8217;re actively looking at this problem. if someone could send to <a href="mailto:macsupport@mozy.com">macsupport@mozy.com</a> the last 1MB or so of one of these runaway logs, it would definitely help us figure out what&#8217;s going on. under normal usage, the log file should never get above a couple MB, and is rotated regularly. (thanks Elan for sending the relevant lines from your log in.)</p>
<p>2) mozy is using too much tmp space. Under normal conditions, Mozy does not use very much disk space at all during backups. it does NOT need as much tmp space as everything you&#8217;re backing up. you know that tmp space is the issue (and not the log file) if rebooting your Mac frees up the space. if this is happening to you, please let support know. i&#8217;ve directed support to escalate these cases directly to the engineers.</p>
<p>&gt; tomas (Mozy crashes at config): please send us the crashdump so we can see where the crash is happening.</p>
<p>&gt; peter (doesn&#8217;t see all files in folder): this is a known problem that should be fixed in one of the next releases.</p>
<p>&gt; stephen (not running as admin): we know about this one as well and will address it soon.</p>
<p>&gt; jonathan (stalls at 75.3%): Please contact <a href="mailto:macsupport@mozy.com">macsupport@mozy.com</a> so we can figure out why it&#8217;s stalling.</p>
<p>thank you everyone for the great feedback, both positive and negative.  we will likely release an upgraded beta later this week.  this kind of feedback from the community really helps us get to RC quality.</p>
<p>-josh<br />
Josh Coates<br />
Founder,CEO<br />
Berkeley Data Systems, Inc (Mozy/MozyPro)</p>
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		<title>By: Mac and Mozy &#8230; might be better to wait. at 80 dash 89 dot com</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104971</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac and Mozy &#8230; might be better to wait. at 80 dash 89 dot com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about a online backup service Mozy releasing a Mac client and thinking about trying it read this post over at The Apple Blog first. It sounds like for Mac users it&#8217;s not quite ready for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about a online backup service Mozy releasing a Mac client and thinking about trying it read this post over at The Apple Blog first. It sounds like for Mac users it&#8217;s not quite ready for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Si</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104958</link>
		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been using Mozy on Windows since it first came out and I seem to remember some strange behaviour with that client early on.  It woul halt when "preparing" files.  After a few months the problem was gone and the client has gone from strength to strength.  I'm sure the same will happen with the OSX client.  Personally, I uploaded 1.5GB using the OSX client and it was fine, and very VERY fast.

Maybe Mozy are just using the term "Beta" as it's intended to be used, for a tool that isn't quite ready for primetime yet.  Thats the problem with things like Gmail and flickr, they've set an unrealistic expectation of Beta products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using Mozy on Windows since it first came out and I seem to remember some strange behaviour with that client early on.  It woul halt when &#8220;preparing&#8221; files.  After a few months the problem was gone and the client has gone from strength to strength.  I&#8217;m sure the same will happen with the OSX client.  Personally, I uploaded 1.5GB using the OSX client and it was fine, and very VERY fast.</p>
<p>Maybe Mozy are just using the term &#8220;Beta&#8221; as it&#8217;s intended to be used, for a tool that isn&#8217;t quite ready for primetime yet.  Thats the problem with things like Gmail and flickr, they&#8217;ve set an unrealistic expectation of Beta products.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Flax</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104957</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Flax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all keep in mind that Mozy/Mac is still beta software. They've specifically requested beta users to tell them about issues such as these via email. I suggest that everyone do that, and wait for a response, before posting a negative experience online. I'm trying the beta, and I've encountered some issues - as I expected to. I contacted their mac support address, and they've been responsive and helpful. Let's all hold off on judgement for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all keep in mind that Mozy/Mac is still beta software. They&#8217;ve specifically requested beta users to tell them about issues such as these via email. I suggest that everyone do that, and wait for a response, before posting a negative experience online. I&#8217;m trying the beta, and I&#8217;ve encountered some issues - as I expected to. I contacted their mac support address, and they&#8217;ve been responsive and helpful. Let&#8217;s all hold off on judgement for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Raheel</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104956</link>
		<dc:creator>Raheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you recover the disk space?
I restarted, uninstalled Mozy but my disk space is still down to 200MB (earlier it was 20 GB).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you recover the disk space?<br />
I restarted, uninstalled Mozy but my disk space is still down to 200MB (earlier it was 20 GB).</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart McKnight</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104955</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart McKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've uninstalled this until the next beta release. I selected about 2GB of files but after starting with 299GB free on my startup drive, Mozy didn't seem to complete and I ended up with zero free and disk full warning. I restarted my Mac and my disk space came back (phew).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve uninstalled this until the next beta release. I selected about 2GB of files but after starting with 299GB free on my startup drive, Mozy didn&#8217;t seem to complete and I ended up with zero free and disk full warning. I restarted my Mac and my disk space came back (phew).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Fitzsimmons</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104948</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Fitzsimmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mozy has worked fine for me so far. I had a problem once where all my startup items disappeared, but that was long before Mozy. My backup is over 1GB, and there hasn't been any trouble. Of course I had lots of free spac available, so I wouldn't notic an overgrown log file. However, I checked the size and it seems reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mozy has worked fine for me so far. I had a problem once where all my startup items disappeared, but that was long before Mozy. My backup is over 1GB, and there hasn&#8217;t been any trouble. Of course I had lots of free spac available, so I wouldn&#8217;t notic an overgrown log file. However, I checked the size and it seems reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Buys</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104946</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Buys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm having problems as well, but not as extreme as yours.  I'm trying to backup around 100 Meg, but I can't seem to get past 75.3 % total prepared.  

Well, the Mac version is in beta right now, so I guess they have some things to work out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having problems as well, but not as extreme as yours.  I&#8217;m trying to backup around 100 Meg, but I can&#8217;t seem to get past 75.3 % total prepared.  </p>
<p>Well, the Mac version is in beta right now, so I guess they have some things to work out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tod</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104945</link>
		<dc:creator>Tod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104945</guid>
		<description>As that old saying goes:  Your Mileage May Vary!

I was a private beta tester and have had none of the problems mentioned here.  I opted for the free 2gb service and uploaded about 1.1gb at first.  Of course it took a couple of days to complete because my DSL upstream is much slower than downstream.

I've had to retrieve about ten files from Mozy and everything came back just like one would expect.

Once Mozy gets out of beta I am pretty sure I wil go for the $5/mo unlimited storage.  Of course I'll have to set it and take off for a week while it uploads! :-)

While I do appreciate the comments by both the poster and other commenters who have had less than optimal experiences with Mozy for Mac, it is a beta and as such, I really hope you folks are letting Berkeley Data Systems (Mozy) know about your glitches.  As with all bug reports, let them know what your machine is, what OS you're using, anything else you think might be important.   I've done this and Mozy does appreciate all feedback.

But it is good to air these experiences in a forum such as this.  It gives us all a feel for an unreleased product.  I hope those who have had bad experiences will continue to use newer versions of Mozy to see if things get better.  If they don't, be sure to report them, both to Mozy and here.

-Tod (no connection with Mozy except as an early beta tester)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As that old saying goes:  Your Mileage May Vary!</p>
<p>I was a private beta tester and have had none of the problems mentioned here.  I opted for the free 2gb service and uploaded about 1.1gb at first.  Of course it took a couple of days to complete because my DSL upstream is much slower than downstream.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had to retrieve about ten files from Mozy and everything came back just like one would expect.</p>
<p>Once Mozy gets out of beta I am pretty sure I wil go for the $5/mo unlimited storage.  Of course I&#8217;ll have to set it and take off for a week while it uploads! <img src='http://theappleblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>While I do appreciate the comments by both the poster and other commenters who have had less than optimal experiences with Mozy for Mac, it is a beta and as such, I really hope you folks are letting Berkeley Data Systems (Mozy) know about your glitches.  As with all bug reports, let them know what your machine is, what OS you&#8217;re using, anything else you think might be important.   I&#8217;ve done this and Mozy does appreciate all feedback.</p>
<p>But it is good to air these experiences in a forum such as this.  It gives us all a feel for an unreleased product.  I hope those who have had bad experiences will continue to use newer versions of Mozy to see if things get better.  If they don&#8217;t, be sure to report them, both to Mozy and here.</p>
<p>-Tod (no connection with Mozy except as an early beta tester)</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Bye</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104944</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Bye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104944</guid>
		<description>Working as advertised for me.  2 GB has been more than sufficient for my needs luckily, but would not shy away from the $5.00 a month if I needed more.

These guys are great.  This will only improve with time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working as advertised for me.  2 GB has been more than sufficient for my needs luckily, but would not shy away from the $5.00 a month if I needed more.</p>
<p>These guys are great.  This will only improve with time.</p>
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		<title>By: g0nk</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104943</link>
		<dc:creator>g0nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't had any problems, I've backed up 2.2GB (over 45,000 files) on it so far. I sprung for the $5 a month unlimited plan as well. It's not fast, (upload rate is capped here on my cable modem) but it's been working great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had any problems, I&#8217;ve backed up 2.2GB (over 45,000 files) on it so far. I sprung for the $5 a month unlimited plan as well. It&#8217;s not fast, (upload rate is capped here on my cable modem) but it&#8217;s been working great.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas040</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104942</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas040</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. So it caches everything? What If I wanna backup everything? Like every bit of my 130gb used on my 160 gb harddrive. That's not possible then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. So it caches everything? What If I wanna backup everything? Like every bit of my 130gb used on my 160 gb harddrive. That&#8217;s not possible then?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hargrove</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104941</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Hargrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104941</guid>
		<description>It's been working as advertised for me.  I had one weird issue after I demoted my user login from administrator to user.  Mozy complained that I had too many computers registered.  I only had 2 and only one had performed any backup.  I unregistered the one that had never done a backup, then Mozy failed to see that it had ever performed a backup at all.  I uninstalled and reinstalled, then let the backup run over night.  Currently I have 3,237 files @ 202.8 MB.  I'm pretty happy with it.

The user interface could use some work, but hey, it's beta.  I can foresee this becoming an awesome service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been working as advertised for me.  I had one weird issue after I demoted my user login from administrator to user.  Mozy complained that I had too many computers registered.  I only had 2 and only one had performed any backup.  I unregistered the one that had never done a backup, then Mozy failed to see that it had ever performed a backup at all.  I uninstalled and reinstalled, then let the backup run over night.  Currently I have 3,237 files @ 202.8 MB.  I&#8217;m pretty happy with it.</p>
<p>The user interface could use some work, but hey, it&#8217;s beta.  I can foresee this becoming an awesome service.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Garner</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104940</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Garner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104940</guid>
		<description>I didn't even get to the backing up part. I installed and selected a folder to backup, but it didn't seem to "see" all the files in the selected folder, and for some of the ones it did see, Mozy gave incorrect file sizes (e.g., one small Excel file Mozy evaluated at over 1 GB!). Needless to say, I decided to hold off using the app until I was sure it would do what it said it was going to do. Reading this thread, I'm glad I did. I'll wait until a new beta comes out, thanks very much.

That said, the app itself looks pretty nice. Hope they work the bugs out soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t even get to the backing up part. I installed and selected a folder to backup, but it didn&#8217;t seem to &#8220;see&#8221; all the files in the selected folder, and for some of the ones it did see, Mozy gave incorrect file sizes (e.g., one small Excel file Mozy evaluated at over 1 GB!). Needless to say, I decided to hold off using the app until I was sure it would do what it said it was going to do. Reading this thread, I&#8217;m glad I did. I&#8217;ll wait until a new beta comes out, thanks very much.</p>
<p>That said, the app itself looks pretty nice. Hope they work the bugs out soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104938</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104938</guid>
		<description>I was looking at Mozy and it seemed like a good idea
But I was wondering
I have a 100GB FTP server
Anybody know of a free program like Mozy that would let me upload to my own web space?
Pleaseeee email me if you do -&#62; toby [at] tobybenjamin.com
THANK YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking at Mozy and it seemed like a good idea<br />
But I was wondering<br />
I have a 100GB FTP server<br />
Anybody know of a free program like Mozy that would let me upload to my own web space?<br />
Pleaseeee email me if you do -&gt; toby [at] tobybenjamin.com<br />
THANK YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: CyborgSam</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104936</link>
		<dc:creator>CyborgSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104936</guid>
		<description>It ain't free, but BackJack (www.backjack.com) works flawlessly.  My last job had over 100 Macs on it and I use it at home.  Backing up my work, email, &#38; important documents is well worth the $17.50/mo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ain&#8217;t free, but BackJack (www.backjack.com) works flawlessly.  My last job had over 100 Macs on it and I use it at home.  Backing up my work, email, &amp; important documents is well worth the $17.50/mo.</p>
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		<title>By: Clif Smith</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104932</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104932</guid>
		<description>I recently had the issue with an overgrown log file.  Hey, it's beta!  Aside from the issue with the logfile, it's been a great service.  After trying it for a couple of weeks and verifying 3 restores at different times, I gladly ponied up for the unlimited plan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently had the issue with an overgrown log file.  Hey, it&#8217;s beta!  Aside from the issue with the logfile, it&#8217;s been a great service.  After trying it for a couple of weeks and verifying 3 restores at different times, I gladly ponied up for the unlimited plan!</p>
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		<title>By: Espen Ottersen</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/28/weird-mozy-experience/#comment-104931</link>
		<dc:creator>Espen Ottersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could (temporarily) try symlinking the logfile to /dev/null, and then run mozy. That would be a quickfix to that big logfile bug.

ln -s /dev/null /var/log/mozy.log</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could (temporarily) try symlinking the logfile to /dev/null, and then run mozy. That would be a quickfix to that big logfile bug.</p>
<p>ln -s /dev/null /var/log/mozy.log</p>
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