Comments on: Why new iPods aren’t quite as good as old iPods http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:55:21 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: M.Z. http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-48326 M.Z. Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:37:16 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-48326 The iPod is not the only product that Apple has been skimping on. Apple has repeatedly taken out things with each generation of the iPhone. I never owned the 1st generation iPhone, so I'm not sure all the accessories that it came with, but I know it used to come with a dock connector for the computer. When I went out and bought the iPhone 3G, Apple discontinued supplying those docks. You can still get them, but you have to buy them separately from Apple for around $49.99 I think. Anyways, I just went out and bought the iPhone 3Gs a couple days ago. Although at first glance, everything seemed the same, even the look of the box, I realized that Apple took something out. When I got the 3G, Apple included a little shamy (lol dont know how thats spelled, but basically a little piece of cloth) that you can use to wipe dust and prints of your screen (it was pretty cool actually). Apple quietly took this out of the 3Gs packaging, and although its not a very big deal, its kind of annoying not to have it especially after i gave away my old shamy when i sold the 3G because i thought i was gonna get a new one lol. Im wondering if anyone knows if there was anything else that apple included in the 1st gen iPhone that isnt included with the 3G or 3Gs anymore??? The iPod is not the only product that Apple has been skimping on. Apple has repeatedly taken out things with each generation of the iPhone.

I never owned the 1st generation iPhone, so I’m not sure all the accessories that it came with, but I know it used to come with a dock connector for the computer. When I went out and bought the iPhone 3G, Apple discontinued supplying those docks. You can still get them, but you have to buy them separately from Apple for around $49.99 I think.

Anyways, I just went out and bought the iPhone 3Gs a couple days ago. Although at first glance, everything seemed the same, even the look of the box, I realized that Apple took something out. When I got the 3G, Apple included a little shamy (lol dont know how thats spelled, but basically a little piece of cloth) that you can use to wipe dust and prints of your screen (it was pretty cool actually). Apple quietly took this out of the 3Gs packaging, and although its not a very big deal, its kind of annoying not to have it especially after i gave away my old shamy when i sold the 3G because i thought i was gonna get a new one lol.

Im wondering if anyone knows if there was anything else that apple included in the 1st gen iPhone that isnt included with the 3G or 3Gs anymore???

]]> By: lorie http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-35039 lorie Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:47:02 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-35039 Haha ^^ nice, is there a section to follow the RSS feed Haha ^^ nice, is there a section to follow the RSS feed

]]> By: KarenNicole http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-31796 KarenNicole Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:07:34 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-31796 Peronally the only thing i can agree with is an adapter. It would be nice to charge my 5G Nano on the way to school instead of remembering to do so before i go to sleep at night... Peronally the only thing i can agree with is an adapter. It would be nice to charge my 5G Nano on the way to school instead of remembering to do so before i go to sleep at night…

]]> By: KarenNicole http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-31795 KarenNicole Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:06:20 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-31795 I was going through my grandfather's closet when i found the 2G ipod. I picked it up and had a reflex and threw it because it seemed so weird. I am used to holding my 5G nano, which is VERY compact and thin. Then i pick up the older one and it feels like a tapte recorder. I tried hooking it up to my computer and it kept beeping? The BEEPING is ANNOYING, it's huge and weird feeling. It's not as colorful and sharp as the newer one and the circle's HUGE...there goes that damn clicking again... I was going through my grandfather’s closet when i found the 2G ipod. I picked it up and had a reflex and threw it because it seemed so weird. I am used to holding my 5G nano, which is VERY compact and thin. Then i pick up the older one and it feels like a tapte recorder. I tried hooking it up to my computer and it kept beeping? The BEEPING is ANNOYING, it’s huge and weird feeling. It’s not as colorful and sharp as the newer one and the circle’s HUGE…there goes that damn clicking again…

]]> By: Sam B. http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-27966 Sam B. Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:01:36 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-27966 You can choose an preference for your iPod in iTunes that is something like "Automatically start iTunes when iPod is connected" if you uncheck that, but don't check the disk mode option, you can plug your iPod into the computer and nothing happens except it starts charging. You don't even get interrupted for a second. I'm doing it right now. You can choose an preference for your iPod in iTunes that is something like “Automatically start iTunes when iPod is connected” if you uncheck that, but don’t check the disk mode option, you can plug your iPod into the computer and nothing happens except it starts charging. You don’t even get interrupted for a second. I’m doing it right now.

]]> By: L. http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15545 L. Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:39:10 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15545 I'm having the same kind of connection problem. I had a clock "radio" that I used to dock my 2nd gen. nano on, and it would charge and play in the house for me. I rarely ever connected it to the computer. That ipod was stolen last weekend, so I replaced it with a new one--a 4th generation nano. It will play on the same docking station, but it will not charge. I actually get a message every time I put it there that this item does not support the charging function. FRUSTRATING!! I seriously miss the old ipod. Anyone know of a way to get around this? (other than buying a new one and spending even more unplanned money?) I’m having the same kind of connection problem. I had a clock “radio” that I used to dock my 2nd gen. nano on, and it would charge and play in the house for me. I rarely ever connected it to the computer. That ipod was stolen last weekend, so I replaced it with a new one–a 4th generation nano. It will play on the same docking station, but it will not charge. I actually get a message every time I put it there that this item does not support the charging function. FRUSTRATING!! I seriously miss the old ipod. Anyone know of a way to get around this? (other than buying a new one and spending even more unplanned money?)

]]> By: Dancinjoe http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15544 Dancinjoe Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:38:59 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15544 BTF, What about the fact that the new iPod touch no longer works with half the docking stations and alomst all direct connect car connections. Even the Bose speaker system no longer works with the new iPod Touch! A point they really should have focused a little more on.Had I know ahead of time, I wouldn't have switch to the new one. Very Lame on Apples part. Who wants to connent through a headphone jack, that is a terrible sound choice. BTF, What about the fact that the new iPod touch no longer works with half the docking stations and alomst all direct connect car connections. Even the Bose speaker system no longer works with the new iPod Touch! A point they really should have focused a little more on.Had I know ahead of time, I wouldn’t have switch to the new one. Very Lame on Apples part. Who wants to connent through a headphone jack, that is a terrible sound choice.

]]> By: BTF http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15543 BTF Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:51:36 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15543 u peeps got sum serious issues, talkin bout stupid features, its all about knowing how to use the ipod. if youre havin problems then ur a NOOB so STFU bout ur stupid problems u peeps got sum serious issues, talkin bout stupid features, its all about knowing how to use the ipod. if youre havin problems then ur a NOOB so STFU bout ur stupid problems

]]> By: BN http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15542 BN Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:34:35 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15542 What I find most irritating is that my old iPod Nano used to charge when I plugged it into a base station player AND when I plugged it into my car, thus I never had to worry about the battery running low. I just bought the new 8GB Nano and I found out it no longer charges on these accessories. L-A-M-E What I find most irritating is that my old iPod Nano used to charge when I plugged it into a base station player AND when I plugged it into my car, thus I never had to worry about the battery running low. I just bought the new 8GB Nano and I found out it no longer charges on these accessories. L-A-M-E

]]> By: How Apple could launch the iPhone (and ship 3m devices) globally on 9th June - Life @ 36 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15541 How Apple could launch the iPhone (and ship 3m devices) globally on 9th June - Life @ 36 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:09:42 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15541 [...] stock to where demand is (remember Apple changed the iPod range a few years back so that they no longer ship with a power adaptor, much to the disdain of customers). Here’s my theory about all of this and how Apple are [...] [...] stock to where demand is (remember Apple changed the iPod range a few years back so that they no longer ship with a power adaptor, much to the disdain of customers). Here’s my theory about all of this and how Apple are [...]

]]> By: Matt E http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15540 Matt E Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:30:59 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15540 The lack of firewire sucks! I don't have usb2. my older g4 mac works fine still so i'm not about to upgrade it for a USB port. The transfer speeds with USB1 are a joke. The lack of firewire sucks!

I don’t have usb2. my older g4 mac works fine still so i’m not about to upgrade it for a USB port.

The transfer speeds with USB1 are a joke.

]]> By: K'D http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15539 K'D Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:55:59 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15539 okay...if ya'll got such a problem w/ the new ones...then keep yo janky old one and leave it alone...your reasons are about as irrelevent as...well i don't see anything in this world that irrelevant...it really aint nuthin to complain about...i could care less if couldn't put "about" in my main menu...but i just keep yo 1st generation and go on bout you business.... okay…if ya’ll got such a problem w/ the new ones…then keep yo janky old one and leave it alone…your reasons are about as irrelevent as…well i don’t see anything in this world that irrelevant…it really aint nuthin to complain about…i could care less if couldn’t put “about” in my main menu…but i just keep yo 1st generation and go on bout you business….

]]> By: K'D http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-27965 K'D Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:55:59 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-27965 okay...if ya'll got such a problem w/ the new ones...then keep yo janky old one and leave it alone...your reasons are about as irrelevent as...well i don't see anything in this world that irrelevant...it really aint nuthin to complain about...i could care less if couldn't put "about" in my main menu...but i just keep yo 1st generation and go on bout you business.... okay…if ya’ll got such a problem w/ the new ones…then keep yo janky old one and leave it alone…your reasons are about as irrelevent as…well i don’t see anything in this world that irrelevant…it really aint nuthin to complain about…i could care less if couldn’t put “about” in my main menu…but i just keep yo 1st generation and go on bout you business….

]]> By: exholt http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15538 exholt Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:24:41 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15538 Stephan@ Post #41, I never had a problem getting my 5G Ipod charged and synced using usb 1.1 on PCs or Macs(Beige G3). Though usb 1.1 is SLOW for syncing, it charged my ipod just fine. Stephan@ Post #41,

I never had a problem getting my 5G Ipod charged and synced using usb 1.1 on PCs or Macs(Beige G3). Though usb 1.1 is SLOW for syncing, it charged my ipod just fine.

]]> By: Stephen http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15537 Stephen Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:16:37 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15537 It's not supported to use the iPod 5G with a USB 1.1 Mac, believe it I've tried numerous times. USB 1.1 does not supply enough power to the iPod. Apple was still selling USB 1.1 based Macs in Summer 2003, two years later they introduced the iPod video 5G and removed Firewire support. A two year old Mac still supported by AppleCare (with another year of covered support left!) doesn't support the latest iPods and no upgrade path was offered from Apple. This issue affected a lot of people, and I'm really surprised at how Apple handled the whole thing. Apple was one of the last vendors to ship all their computers with USB2, if not THE last. Much love Firewire. It’s not supported to use the iPod 5G with a USB 1.1 Mac, believe it I’ve tried numerous times. USB 1.1 does not supply enough power to the iPod.

Apple was still selling USB 1.1 based Macs in Summer 2003, two years later they introduced the iPod video 5G and removed Firewire support. A two year old Mac still supported by AppleCare (with another year of covered support left!) doesn’t support the latest iPods and no upgrade path was offered from Apple.

This issue affected a lot of people, and I’m really surprised at how Apple handled the whole thing. Apple was one of the last vendors to ship all their computers with USB2, if not THE last.

Much love Firewire.

]]> By: links for 2007-05-20 » paikia.com http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15536 links for 2007-05-20 » paikia.com Sun, 20 May 2007 03:17:59 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15536 [...] Why new iPods aren’t quite as good as old iPods at The Apple Blog 第五代ipod不及第二代ipod?! [...] [...] Why new iPods aren’t quite as good as old iPods at The Apple Blog 第五代ipod不及第二代ipod?! [...]

]]> By: one of me » the home of paul turnbull » Blog Archive » links for 2007-05-08 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15513 one of me » the home of paul turnbull » Blog Archive » links for 2007-05-08 Tue, 08 May 2007 23:27:43 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15513 [...] Why new iPods aren’t quite as good as old iPods at The Apple Blog (tags: Commented IPod Apple) [...] [...] Why new iPods aren’t quite as good as old iPods at The Apple Blog (tags: Commented IPod Apple) [...]

]]> By: Louis http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15500 Louis Tue, 08 May 2007 14:16:02 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15500 The biggest mistake was the removal of FireWire. But they did this because the chipset for it was too big to fit with everything else in the 5G iPod. Obviously Apple's focus on the iPod moved from Mac users to everyone (i.e PC users) so they thought - well all our new macs have USB 2.0 and all PCs have USB 2.0 whats the prob? Big big big mistake. FireWire is far superior to USB in speed and functionality. Yea, that charger was pretty handy. I guess its all about those little things that please the user and make them think of you again next time their looking to buy something. "Oh I remember, that iPod was pretty good. Apple might have that thing I need this time..." The other thing I wish Apple would have kept up was the reliability and sturdiness of their 2G iPods. You could hit that 2G iPod with a hammer and it would still be playing away its music happily. You drop a 3G and over iPod more than 5 - 10 cm above your desk? Gone. And as for bugs and resets and what not? I have never had to restore my iPod's software or even reset it with the button combo for the 5 or so years I've had the thing. But everyone I know who has a new iPod have some pretty big issues with this. I think its probably just a combination of trying to push out more iPods to more users, which really means making the package cheaper and faster to produce and ship. That means less accessories and lesser quality production. Apple is also interested in revenue and market share, if it doesn't cater for PC users it wont keep its place as No. 1. The biggest mistake was the removal of FireWire. But they did this because the chipset for it was too big to fit with everything else in the 5G iPod. Obviously Apple’s focus on the iPod moved from Mac users to everyone (i.e PC users) so they thought – well all our new macs have USB 2.0 and all PCs have USB 2.0 whats the prob? Big big big mistake. FireWire is far superior to USB in speed and functionality.

Yea, that charger was pretty handy. I guess its all about those little things that please the user and make them think of you again next time their looking to buy something. “Oh I remember, that iPod was pretty good. Apple might have that thing I need this time…”

The other thing I wish Apple would have kept up was the reliability and sturdiness of their 2G iPods. You could hit that 2G iPod with a hammer and it would still be playing away its music happily. You drop a 3G and over iPod more than 5 – 10 cm above your desk? Gone. And as for bugs and resets and what not? I have never had to restore my iPod’s software or even reset it with the button combo for the 5 or so years I’ve had the thing. But everyone I know who has a new iPod have some pretty big issues with this.

I think its probably just a combination of trying to push out more iPods to more users, which really means making the package cheaper and faster to produce and ship. That means less accessories and lesser quality production. Apple is also interested in revenue and market share, if it doesn’t cater for PC users it wont keep its place as No. 1.

]]> By: Niklas Brunberg http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15499 Niklas Brunberg Tue, 08 May 2007 07:28:05 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15499 I miss the physical scroll wheel. Although the touch sensitive pad is nice and thinner I have always had problems using it: It's sporadic and not as predictable as the physical entity where 1 revolution always turns the same distance (adjusted for the logarithmic acceleration) in the interface. With the touch sensitive pad sometimes it will not always react on your finger. I miss the physical scroll wheel. Although the touch sensitive pad is nice and thinner I have always had problems using it: It’s sporadic and not as predictable as the physical entity where 1 revolution always turns the same distance (adjusted for the logarithmic acceleration) in the interface. With the touch sensitive pad sometimes it will not always react on your finger.

]]> By: Aaron Cooper http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15502 Aaron Cooper Tue, 08 May 2007 03:34:52 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/04/30/why-new-ipods-arent-quite-as-good-as-old-ipods/#comment-15502 About is useless - get over it! About is useless – get over it!

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