Comments on: An FTP Application to Break The Mold? http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:46:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Software Updates & New Release Highlights For Week Ending 2007-07-26 | Gadget News and Reviews http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-119031 Software Updates & New Release Highlights For Week Ending 2007-07-26 | Gadget News and Reviews Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:26:32 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-119031 [...] - 1.0.3 - Nick wrote about around that day last year but the app is far from vaporware and actually manages to put a fressh [...] [...] - 1.0.3 - Nick wrote about around that day last year but the app is far from vaporware and actually manages to put a fressh [...]

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]]> By: Ej http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106963 Ej Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:03:09 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106963 Well I watched the movies and I have to say I don't see anything all that different from a single pane Transmit window. And nothing groundbreaking or revolutionary, unless you're not showing it or descrbing it. How would this change my workflow from Transmit? Create an FTP client that sits in your finder as a distinctly colored OS X window and behaves like a finder window that you can drag and drop to for downloading/uploading/editing with animated icons to show upload/download status and shows up in your open/save dialog boxes in any application. That will be an application thats workflow-altering. Well I watched the movies and I have to say I don’t see anything all that different from a single pane Transmit window. And nothing groundbreaking or revolutionary, unless you’re not showing it or descrbing it. How would this change my workflow from Transmit?

Create an FTP client that sits in your finder as a distinctly colored OS X window and behaves like a finder window that you can drag and drop to for downloading/uploading/editing with animated icons to show upload/download status and shows up in your open/save dialog boxes in any application.

That will be an application thats workflow-altering.

]]> By: Brian Amerige http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106937 Brian Amerige Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:14:21 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106937 @ John That's why we're moving toward expanding the private beta. We announced Flow way early --- in February, and we had only started working on it in October of the previous year. Trust me, we're aware that in the eyes of public, we should be shipping, but in terms of the actual development cycle, we're perfectly on track. We own up to that mistake. @ John

That’s why we’re moving toward expanding the private beta. We announced Flow way early — in February, and we had only started working on it in October of the previous year. Trust me, we’re aware that in the eyes of public, we should be shipping, but in terms of the actual development cycle, we’re perfectly on track. We own up to that mistake.

]]> By: one digital life » Blog Archive » Flow - a better ftp client? http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106932 one digital life » Blog Archive » Flow - a better ftp client? Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:24:52 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106932 [...] The Apple Blog This entry was posted on Thursday, June 28th, 2007 at 10:23 am and is filed under Software. You [...] [...] The Apple Blog This entry was posted on Thursday, June 28th, 2007 at 10:23 am and is filed under Software. You [...]

]]> By: John http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106930 John Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:06:23 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106930 Flow is the definition of vaporware. The developer is constantly talking the talk, but has produced *nothing.* Yet writers still publish articles like this claiming it to be revolutionary. Could we save our praise until it actually ships? Also, with all this talk about Panic apps I feel I should mention Coda too. It does server side editing and integrates FTP and text editing in a sweet package that is actually shipping. Flow is the definition of vaporware. The developer is constantly talking the talk, but has produced *nothing.* Yet writers still publish articles like this claiming it to be revolutionary. Could we save our praise until it actually ships?

Also, with all this talk about Panic apps I feel I should mention Coda too. It does server side editing and integrates FTP and text editing in a sweet package that is actually shipping.

]]> By: Craig http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106929 Craig Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:05:20 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106929 I'm currently using Transmit but if you think that its UI couldn't be easier you're trapped in a limited perspective of what a UI can/should be. I hope Brian does get it right...I'm amazed that nobody else has. I’m currently using Transmit but if you think that its UI couldn’t be easier you’re trapped in a limited perspective of what a UI can/should be. I hope Brian does get it right…I’m amazed that nobody else has.

]]> By: Jim http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106917 Jim Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:54:46 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106917 I'm not sure how much easier Transmit's user interface could be. It's extremely powerful, has a load of features and works spectacularly. That being said, more competition is always good for the consumer, so I'll definitely check it out when it's available. I’m not sure how much easier Transmit’s user interface could be. It’s extremely powerful, has a load of features and works spectacularly.

That being said, more competition is always good for the consumer, so I’ll definitely check it out when it’s available.

]]> By: Brian Amerige http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106916 Brian Amerige Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:34:31 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106916 @ Marc I'm not sure it was properly explained, but Flow's featurepoint isn't "having lots of connections." It's being the first client that was actually designed from the ground up for what people use it for. It's all about User interface and User Experience, areas things like Transmit aren't impressing people with. If Transmit works for you, terrific. But the industry is screaming for a client that actually focuses on these things, and until now, their needs have not been met. @ Marc

I’m not sure it was properly explained, but Flow’s featurepoint isn’t “having lots of connections.”

It’s being the first client that was actually designed from the ground up for what people use it for. It’s all about User interface and User Experience, areas things like Transmit aren’t impressing people with. If Transmit works for you, terrific. But the industry is screaming for a client that actually focuses on these things, and until now, their needs have not been met.

]]> By: Marc http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106914 Marc Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:10:22 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106914 Panic's Transmit does: FTP SFTP FTP with implicit SSL FTP with TLS/SSL WebDAV WebDAV HTTPS Finds servers via bonjour. Also works with iDisk (.Mac). I don't get where you guys are living, surely not earth?! I'm a switcher for only a year and a half and I found Transmit in my first month. Panic’s Transmit does:

FTP
SFTP
FTP with implicit SSL
FTP with TLS/SSL
WebDAV
WebDAV HTTPS

Finds servers via bonjour. Also works with iDisk (.Mac).

I don’t get where you guys are living, surely not earth?! I’m a switcher for only a year and a half and I found Transmit in my first month.

]]> By: Brian Amerige http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106910 Brian Amerige Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:04:56 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106910 @Eric When we say FTP, we mean FTP, SFTP, WebDAV, WebDAV HTTPS, .Mac, Local, and while unannounced, possibly Amazon S3, and those protocols via Bonjour. @Eric

When we say FTP, we mean FTP, SFTP, WebDAV, WebDAV HTTPS, .Mac, Local, and while unannounced, possibly Amazon S3, and those protocols via Bonjour.

]]> By: Honza http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106909 Honza Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:35:05 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106909 I have been using Fetch with TextWrangler for a while now. Great for editing config/source files on other systems. Fetch isn't free but TextWrangler is. I have been using Fetch with TextWrangler for a while now. Great for editing config/source files on other systems. Fetch isn’t free but TextWrangler is.

]]> By: Eric F Crist http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106908 Eric F Crist Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:17:33 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106908 When are developers going to produce sftp clients, or build sftp support into their clients? Much of the world of file transfers is going to an encrypted model, and ftps (SSL FTP) just doesn't seem to be well supported, especially when, as an administrator, I can support one daemon (ssh) which supports both secure shell login as well as encrypted file transfers. SFTP is currently used with software like rsync, which does remote backups on *nix operating systems, including Mac OS X. It is now supported in Adobe/Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 (although they call it ftps, sftp works like a champ). Just an FYI, if you are looking for a GUI sftp/scp client, try Fugu. You can download it at <a href="http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/fugu/" rel="nofollow">http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/fugu/</a>. I've been using it for a couple years, but it would appear it hasn't been actively developed since around July of 2006. When are developers going to produce sftp clients, or build sftp support into their clients? Much of the world of file transfers is going to an encrypted model, and ftps (SSL FTP) just doesn’t seem to be well supported, especially when, as an administrator, I can support one daemon (ssh) which supports both secure shell login as well as encrypted file transfers.

SFTP is currently used with software like rsync, which does remote backups on *nix operating systems, including Mac OS X. It is now supported in Adobe/Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 (although they call it ftps, sftp works like a champ).
Just an FYI, if you are looking for a GUI sftp/scp client, try Fugu. You can download it at http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/fugu/. I’ve been using it for a couple years, but it would appear it hasn’t been actively developed since around July of 2006.

]]> By: Marc http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106906 Marc Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:04:25 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/06/28/an-ftp-application-to-break-the-mold/#comment-106906 Eh? Transmit has done server side editing and concurrent (and queued) transfers too. Just tell it how many simultaneous transfers to allow. Eh? Transmit has done server side editing and concurrent (and queued) transfers too. Just tell it how many simultaneous transfers to allow.

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