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		<title>By: Luke Noel-Storr</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-29930</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Noel-Storr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I know you may not check back, but incase you do:

To see the commands VisualHub is running under the hood, open the application, then go to &#039;Help&#039; and select &#039;View Log Archive&#039;.

This will open the log file archive in a Finder window, and from there you will be able to click on the individual log files to see what commands were run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I know you may not check back, but incase you do:</p>
<p>To see the commands VisualHub is running under the hood, open the application, then go to &#8216;Help&#8217; and select &#8216;View Log Archive&#8217;.</p>
<p>This will open the log file archive in a Finder window, and from there you will be able to click on the individual log files to see what commands were run.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Andrews</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17155</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is a very old post but what with the demise of VisualHub I really would like to know how you got the exact sting of command line switches to show from VisualHub.

I know it is probably something quite simple from the Terminal or Console but I can&#039;t find it.

Please share,
Thanks, Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a very old post but what with the demise of VisualHub I really would like to know how you got the exact sting of command line switches to show from VisualHub.</p>
<p>I know it is probably something quite simple from the Terminal or Console but I can&#8217;t find it.</p>
<p>Please share,<br />
Thanks, Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Ulisse Vitali</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17154</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulisse Vitali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Billy,

very interesting article.
I write you because I recently bought the Episode encoding software to convert some DVDs in RealVideo format, but unfortunately the output quality of RealVideo files is not as good as I expected. I suspect that this depends on the encoding process, since it is not possible to set the “2-pass encoding” option in the RealVideo settings. Can you confirm this?
In the RealProducer software (only available for Windows systems) there is the possibility to set a “2-pass encoding”, that I think helps a lot in obtaining a better quality output. I was wondering why Episode doesn’t have that feature. There is some technical reason why it is not implemented? Or I can hope it will be added in a next release of the software?

Thanks you!

Ulisse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Billy,</p>
<p>very interesting article.<br />
I write you because I recently bought the Episode encoding software to convert some DVDs in RealVideo format, but unfortunately the output quality of RealVideo files is not as good as I expected. I suspect that this depends on the encoding process, since it is not possible to set the “2-pass encoding” option in the RealVideo settings. Can you confirm this?<br />
In the RealProducer software (only available for Windows systems) there is the possibility to set a “2-pass encoding”, that I think helps a lot in obtaining a better quality output. I was wondering why Episode doesn’t have that feature. There is some technical reason why it is not implemented? Or I can hope it will be added in a next release of the software?</p>
<p>Thanks you!</p>
<p>Ulisse</p>
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		<title>By: Using Your Mac Wisely: Video Content</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17153</link>
		<dc:creator>Using Your Mac Wisely: Video Content</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Death to QuickTime Pro - The Apple Blog</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17152</link>
		<dc:creator>Death to QuickTime Pro - The Apple Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] already alluded once that almost all of QT Pro&#8217;s functionality is easily emulated with iMovie &#x2019;06 &#8212; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Billy Halsey</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17133</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Halsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Jason. I&#039;ll check out Kulabyte and if it&#039;s something that I&#039;d use, I&#039;ll consider recommending it both here and my personal blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Jason. I&#8217;ll check out Kulabyte and if it&#8217;s something that I&#8217;d use, I&#8217;ll consider recommending it both here and my personal blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cronkhite</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17134</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cronkhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Billy,

Just wanted to say you are doing a great job here.  Very useful information and I&#039;m hoping that we can help more as we progress with our products.  I work for a video encoding company called Kulabyte and we have some exciting things coming that your readers may be interested in.  You might check out some of the HD clips we just put up on our site at www.kulabyte.com.  I will be checking back.

Cheers,
Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Billy,</p>
<p>Just wanted to say you are doing a great job here.  Very useful information and I&#8217;m hoping that we can help more as we progress with our products.  I work for a video encoding company called Kulabyte and we have some exciting things coming that your readers may be interested in.  You might check out some of the HD clips we just put up on our site at <a href="http://www.kulabyte.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kulabyte.com</a>.  I will be checking back.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17135</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that Billy. I was looking at ffmpeg, compiling my own looked a little daunting to me. You mentioned ffmpegX in a previous comment, gave that a go, working very well for me so far. Quite suprised at how quick it is.

Thanks again.

Griff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that Billy. I was looking at ffmpeg, compiling my own looked a little daunting to me. You mentioned ffmpegX in a previous comment, gave that a go, working very well for me so far. Quite suprised at how quick it is.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>Griff.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Halsey</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17136</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Halsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griff -- .mkv files are called Matroska video. If you feel comfortable compiling your own version of FFmpeg, it will handle MKVs, if you add in the Matroska codec available at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libmatroska/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Matroska downloads&lt;/a&gt; page.

Alternatively, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mplayerhq.hu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MPlayer&lt;/a&gt; has Matroska built-in, according to the Matroska web site. There&#039;s a GUI version of MPlayer called MPlayerOSX which you might choose to use (although it&#039;s rather old and may not support .mkv files; I&#039;ve honestly never seen .mkv&#039;s &quot;in the wild&quot;) if you&#039;d prefer to avoid the terminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griff &#8212; .mkv files are called Matroska video. If you feel comfortable compiling your own version of FFmpeg, it will handle MKVs, if you add in the Matroska codec available at the <a href="http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libmatroska/" rel="nofollow">Matroska downloads</a> page.</p>
<p>Alternatively, <a href="http://www.mplayerhq.hu/" rel="nofollow">MPlayer</a> has Matroska built-in, according to the Matroska web site. There&#8217;s a GUI version of MPlayer called MPlayerOSX which you might choose to use (although it&#8217;s rather old and may not support .mkv files; I&#8217;ve honestly never seen .mkv&#8217;s &#8220;in the wild&#8221;) if you&#8217;d prefer to avoid the terminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17138</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the round up of converters. I&#039;m starting to convert my video files to mp4 so i can use on iPod, xbox 360, Apple TV if i eventualy get one. I&#039;ve been succesfull with most formats i&#039;ve come across, except .mkv files. These files play back in VLC fine, i&#039;ve found a number of windows based converters for the mkv format, not much luck with OS X though. just before i found this article i discovered that VLC will convert (transcode as they call it)  alot of files. But my attempts with mkv conversion haven&#039;t been too successful. Anyone able to provide some info for me to help me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the round up of converters. I&#8217;m starting to convert my video files to mp4 so i can use on iPod, xbox 360, Apple TV if i eventualy get one. I&#8217;ve been succesfull with most formats i&#8217;ve come across, except .mkv files. These files play back in VLC fine, i&#8217;ve found a number of windows based converters for the mkv format, not much luck with OS X though. just before i found this article i discovered that VLC will convert (transcode as they call it)  alot of files. But my attempts with mkv conversion haven&#8217;t been too successful. Anyone able to provide some info for me to help me?</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Halsey</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17137</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Halsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Education discounts make all the difference. :) I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the post, Alec!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education discounts make all the difference. :) I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the post, Alec!</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Couros</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17139</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Couros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy,
I&#039;m in education so I get everything at a huge discount. I guess, in that way, Sorenson wasn&#039;t that big of a purchase ... I can&#039;t remember what I actually paid but it was quite reasonable. Thanks again for your post, great resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy,<br />
I&#8217;m in education so I get everything at a huge discount. I guess, in that way, Sorenson wasn&#8217;t that big of a purchase &#8230; I can&#8217;t remember what I actually paid but it was quite reasonable. Thanks again for your post, great resource.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Halsey</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17140</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Halsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alec,

I&#039;m not familiar with Instant Handbrake, but &quot;regular&quot; HB isn&#039;t too difficult to begin with. Probably the most difficult of all the options I presented (other than command-line encoding) was VLC or iMovie.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sorensonmedia.com/products/?pageID=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sorenson &lt;/a&gt; totally slipped my mind. Just more evidence that there are a million different tools to accomplish the same task: each a little different, some a little better. But I&#039;d disagree with you that Sorenson is less expensive than Episode: The pricing chart at the Sorenson site gives a price of $499 for the version that won&#039;t encode Windows Media; and it also puts limits on monthly encoding volume. The Sorenson Squeeze Unlimited which doesn&#039;t restrict encoding volume is $2,500 per year -- ouch! And at $2,500 per year, they &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; consider the On2 codec an add-on.

I&#039;m plenty happy with my VisualHub, thanks. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alec,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with Instant Handbrake, but &#8220;regular&#8221; HB isn&#8217;t too difficult to begin with. Probably the most difficult of all the options I presented (other than command-line encoding) was VLC or iMovie.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sorensonmedia.com/products/?pageID=1" rel="nofollow">Sorenson </a> totally slipped my mind. Just more evidence that there are a million different tools to accomplish the same task: each a little different, some a little better. But I&#8217;d disagree with you that Sorenson is less expensive than Episode: The pricing chart at the Sorenson site gives a price of $499 for the version that won&#8217;t encode Windows Media; and it also puts limits on monthly encoding volume. The Sorenson Squeeze Unlimited which doesn&#8217;t restrict encoding volume is $2,500 per year &#8212; ouch! And at $2,500 per year, they <em>still</em> consider the On2 codec an add-on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m plenty happy with my VisualHub, thanks. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Couros</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17145</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Couros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 04:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Instant Handbrake for DVD to iPod without any messing with options. It works well, and I see your explanation for not including Handbrake above.

You didn&#039;t mention Sorenson Squeeze. What&#039;s up with that? It&#039;s a great professional solution, and cheaper than Episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Instant Handbrake for DVD to iPod without any messing with options. It works well, and I see your explanation for not including Handbrake above.</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t mention Sorenson Squeeze. What&#8217;s up with that? It&#8217;s a great professional solution, and cheaper than Episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Halsey</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17144</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Halsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny, fantastic! I hope that they&#039;re able to follow my notes and find a way to support Mac users.

Another workaround you might try in Safari is the Activity Window (Cmd + Opt + A); it has shown me which links are true media files (as opposed to dummy containers) many times when all other tools fail.

I love Skitch, but would be lukewarm if I didn&#039;t have a graphics tablet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny, fantastic! I hope that they&#8217;re able to follow my notes and find a way to support Mac users.</p>
<p>Another workaround you might try in Safari is the Activity Window (Cmd + Opt + A); it has shown me which links are true media files (as opposed to dummy containers) many times when all other tools fail.</p>
<p>I love Skitch, but would be lukewarm if I didn&#8217;t have a graphics tablet.</p>
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		<title>By: kenmcn</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17143</link>
		<dc:creator>kenmcn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Billy.
I&#039;ve posted your notes on the forum and hope they at least give us a direct link to the web page so we don&#039;t have to open up the .php file first.
I&#039;ve installed Unplug in Firefox, but as I&#039;m using Safari 3 most of the time now I guess I&#039;ll just have to get by with the other workarounds.
Thanks again.
Kenny
PS glad to find another Skitch user! It&#039;s fantastic for anything like this. But that&#039;s DEFINITELY off topic, so I&#039;ll stop now :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Billy.<br />
I&#8217;ve posted your notes on the forum and hope they at least give us a direct link to the web page so we don&#8217;t have to open up the .php file first.<br />
I&#8217;ve installed Unplug in Firefox, but as I&#8217;m using Safari 3 most of the time now I guess I&#8217;ll just have to get by with the other workarounds.<br />
Thanks again.<br />
Kenny<br />
PS glad to find another Skitch user! It&#8217;s fantastic for anything like this. But that&#8217;s DEFINITELY off topic, so I&#8217;ll stop now :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Halsey</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17142</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Halsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny,

Glad that worked for you! I agree that most site developers don&#039;t intentionally shut out Mac users; they just don&#039;t know better. Microsoft products are everywhere, and it&#039;s so tempting to use them. They don&#039;t realize they&#039;re cutting off Mac (and Linux) users when they go that route.

It&#039;s a bit of work sometimes, but usually you can get to what you want anyway. Another thing that might help is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://unplug.mozdev.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unplug extension&lt;/a&gt; if you use Firefox or Flock. It can often find the media files for you, saving you all those steps. I don&#039;t know of an equivalent for Safari or Camino, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny,</p>
<p>Glad that worked for you! I agree that most site developers don&#8217;t intentionally shut out Mac users; they just don&#8217;t know better. Microsoft products are everywhere, and it&#8217;s so tempting to use them. They don&#8217;t realize they&#8217;re cutting off Mac (and Linux) users when they go that route.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit of work sometimes, but usually you can get to what you want anyway. Another thing that might help is the <a href="http://unplug.mozdev.org/" rel="nofollow">Unplug extension</a> if you use Firefox or Flock. It can often find the media files for you, saving you all those steps. I don&#8217;t know of an equivalent for Safari or Camino, though.</p>
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		<title>By: kenmcn</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17141</link>
		<dc:creator>kenmcn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy
THANKS VERY MUCH! I really appreciate your help.
I&#039;ll pass on your comments about the web site to the developers - I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any intent to keep us out, probably just ignorance about what they&#039;ve done when they set up the site.

Both VLC and getting the URL worked fine. It&#039;s easier to get a full screen view in VLC (even though it&#039;s a bit fuzzy), so this is probably what I&#039;ll use when I watch the matches through my TV. I&#039;ll ask them to put the direct link on-line so Mac users can watch in their browser if they wish.

Thanks again for your help.
Kenny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy<br />
THANKS VERY MUCH! I really appreciate your help.<br />
I&#8217;ll pass on your comments about the web site to the developers &#8211; I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any intent to keep us out, probably just ignorance about what they&#8217;ve done when they set up the site.</p>
<p>Both VLC and getting the URL worked fine. It&#8217;s easier to get a full screen view in VLC (even though it&#8217;s a bit fuzzy), so this is probably what I&#8217;ll use when I watch the matches through my TV. I&#8217;ll ask them to put the direct link on-line so Mac users can watch in their browser if they wish.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your help.<br />
Kenny</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Halsey</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17146</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Halsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kenny,

I don&#039;t have a &lt;i&gt;fix&lt;/i&gt; for you; looking at the raw HTML of the site, it appears as though the developers are actively trying to discourage Mac users. I don&#039;t know whether that&#039;s the case, but it does make things very difficult for people who choose superior operating systems.

I &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; have a workaround for you, though! I&#039;ve taken and annotated some screenshots. Please follow along with them in order at these links. (All screenshots are taken with Firefox, not Safari, so adjustments may be needed depending on your browser choice.)

1. &lt;a href=&quot;http://myskitch.com/billifer/hibernian_interactive-20070728-113312.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Select the external player&lt;/a&gt;
2. &lt;a href=&quot;http://myskitch.com/billifer/opening_teststream-20070728-120511.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Save the file&lt;/a&gt;
3.&lt;a href=&quot;http://myskitch.com/billifer/dock-20070728-113846.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Open the file&lt;/a&gt;
4. &lt;a href=&quot;http://myskitch.com/billifer/teststream-20070728-114158.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grab the URL for the actual media file from the &lt;tt&gt;.php&lt;/tt&gt; file.&lt;/a&gt;
5. &lt;a href=&quot;http://myskitch.com/billifer/rangers.wmv__video_x-ms-wvx_object_-20070728-120312.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Load that URL into your browser.&lt;/a&gt;

Provided you have the &lt;a href=&quot;htp://www.flip4mac.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flip4Mac&lt;/a&gt; plugin, you should be able to watch and/or save the file.

&lt;h4&gt;Another option&lt;/h4&gt;
Alternatively, once you&#039;ve downloaded the &lt;tt&gt;.php&lt;/tt&gt; file, you can simply drag it onto the VLC icon, if you have VLC installed. Since VLC doesn&#039;t know about &lt;tt&gt;.php&lt;/tt&gt; files, you should either rename it to &lt;tt&gt;.asx&lt;/tt&gt; or hold down &lt;b&gt;Command&lt;/b&gt; + &lt;b&gt;Option&lt;/b&gt; while placing the file over the icon to force it to open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kenny,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a <i>fix</i> for you; looking at the raw HTML of the site, it appears as though the developers are actively trying to discourage Mac users. I don&#8217;t know whether that&#8217;s the case, but it does make things very difficult for people who choose superior operating systems.</p>
<p>I <b>do</b> have a workaround for you, though! I&#8217;ve taken and annotated some screenshots. Please follow along with them in order at these links. (All screenshots are taken with Firefox, not Safari, so adjustments may be needed depending on your browser choice.)</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://myskitch.com/billifer/hibernian_interactive-20070728-113312.jpg" rel="nofollow">Select the external player</a><br />
2. <a href="http://myskitch.com/billifer/opening_teststream-20070728-120511.jpg" rel="nofollow">Save the file</a><br />
3.<a href="http://myskitch.com/billifer/dock-20070728-113846.jpg" rel="nofollow">Open the file</a><br />
4. <a href="http://myskitch.com/billifer/teststream-20070728-114158.jpg" rel="nofollow">Grab the URL for the actual media file from the <tt>.php</tt> file.</a><br />
5. <a href="http://myskitch.com/billifer/rangers.wmv__video_x-ms-wvx_object_-20070728-120312.jpg" rel="nofollow">Load that URL into your browser.</a></p>
<p>Provided you have the <a href="htp://www.flip4mac.com/" rel="nofollow">Flip4Mac</a> plugin, you should be able to watch and/or save the file.</p>
<h4>Another option</h4>
<p>Alternatively, once you&#8217;ve downloaded the <tt>.php</tt> file, you can simply drag it onto the VLC icon, if you have VLC installed. Since VLC doesn&#8217;t know about <tt>.php</tt> files, you should either rename it to <tt>.asx</tt> or hold down <b>Command</b> + <b>Option</b> while placing the file over the icon to force it to open.</p>
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		<title>By: kenmcn</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/07/26/video-encoding-apps-go-head-to-head/#comment-17148</link>
		<dc:creator>kenmcn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this is OT, but I think it&#039;s related... please point me elsewhere if you feel it would be more appropriate :-)

I&#039;ve been trying to view a live feed at http://www.hiberniantv.co.uk/Teststream.php but can&#039;t get it to work reliably.
Does anyone know of an external viewer for the Mac that can handle feeds like this? The web site producers can&#039;t offer any help and a few others in the forum are having the same problem, so any suggestions would be welcome.

Thanks very much.
Kenny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this is OT, but I think it&#8217;s related&#8230; please point me elsewhere if you feel it would be more appropriate :-)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to view a live feed at <a href="http://www.hiberniantv.co.uk/Teststream.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.hiberniantv.co.uk/Teststream.php</a> but can&#8217;t get it to work reliably.<br />
Does anyone know of an external viewer for the Mac that can handle feeds like this? The web site producers can&#8217;t offer any help and a few others in the forum are having the same problem, so any suggestions would be welcome.</p>
<p>Thanks very much.<br />
Kenny</p>
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