Comments on: A plea to Steve http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:54:25 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Duncan http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18878 Duncan Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:13:31 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18878 I am in Canada, waiting for any news of availability here. We can get the hacked phones, but you can't update them. I am in Canada, waiting for any news of availability here. We can get the hacked phones, but you can’t update them.

]]> By: tomjennings83 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18877 tomjennings83 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:22:21 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18877 I have heard that they will be switching the future iphones processors to intel based processors wich would render 3rd party apps useless I have heard that they will be switching the future iphones processors to intel based processors wich would render 3rd party apps useless

]]> By: MacSpoon » Blog Archive » Я улетаю в Индию, Макспун остается работать http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18853 MacSpoon » Blog Archive » Я улетаю в Индию, Макспун остается работать Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:43:45 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18853 [...] A plea to Steve – письмо Стиву Джобсу от одного из авторов блога The Apple Blog. Пишет о необходимости разрешить сторонним разработчикам писать программы для iPhone и об обновлении прошивки iPhone под номером 1.1.1, которое закрыло все известные лазейки для запуска сторонних программ. [...] [...] A plea to Steve – письмо Стиву Джобсу от одного из авторов блога The Apple Blog. Пишет о необходимости разрешить сторонним разработчикам писать программы для iPhone и об обновлении прошивки iPhone под номером 1.1.1, которое закрыло все известные лазейки для запуска сторонних программ. [...]

]]> By: Brandon Eley http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18849 Brandon Eley Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:48:18 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18849 @Billy K You're right -- and as I mentioned in my letter to Steve I'm very happy with my iPhone (and my wife is also). However, I think it's a mistake not to embrace third party apps just because you don't think other developers can make software as usable. And if we don't voice our opinions, how would they know how their customers feel? @Billy K

You’re right — and as I mentioned in my letter to Steve I’m very happy with my iPhone (and my wife is also). However, I think it’s a mistake not to embrace third party apps just because you don’t think other developers can make software as usable.

And if we don’t voice our opinions, how would they know how their customers feel?

]]> By: nfoo http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18851 nfoo Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:01:32 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18851 I really don't need 3rd party apps either. But too bad they're not selling an unlocked verision. That's what I will never accept. I'd pay a premium for an unlocked iPhone. I really don’t need 3rd party apps either. But too bad they’re not selling an unlocked verision.

That’s what I will never accept.

I’d pay a premium for an unlocked iPhone.

]]> By: Billy K http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18852 Billy K Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:09:27 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18852 3rd PArty whiners seriously need to let it go. The iPhone was sold with no promise of 3rd party apps. You bought two anyway. There may someday be an SDK. Maybe not. End of story, get over it. 3rd PArty whiners seriously need to let it go. The iPhone was sold with no promise of 3rd party apps. You bought two anyway. There may someday be an SDK. Maybe not. End of story, get over it.

]]> By: Tee http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18850 Tee Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:07:24 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18850 couldn’t care less about an open iPhone. An open iPod Touch however! Where hacks can’t possibly hurt phone profits would be wonderful. Lock the phone free the touch! couldn’t care less about an open iPhone. An open iPod Touch however! Where hacks can’t possibly hurt phone profits would be wonderful.

Lock the phone free the touch!

]]> By: nfoo http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18876 nfoo Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:29:22 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18876 #5 What? Waste? You're kidding, right? Seriously, a real letter has a lot more impact than a mail - maybe send through the feedback form. Apple has, for example, a policy to answer every letter they receive. Not so with email. Would everybody write a letter because of the iPhone, they would certainly hve a lot more work and this means some impact ... more than email ... #5 What? Waste? You’re kidding, right?

Seriously, a real letter has a lot more impact than a mail – maybe send through the feedback form.

Apple has, for example, a policy to answer every letter they receive. Not so with email.

Would everybody write a letter because of the iPhone, they would certainly hve a lot more work and this means some impact … more than email …

]]> By: Steve http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18848 Steve Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:45:20 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18848 Yes, great letter. The iphone is a brilliant yet simple device. Like the newton it has an inherent beauty yet the newton ( especially the newton 2000 took 3rd party apps to a whole new level. Truly, a product ahead of it's time. Unfortunately, Jobs cut the Newton and the 3rd party apps back in 1998. However, there are still people like myself who still use them. The Iphone 3rd party apps are great. People want to install their own apps. People want to install widgets. Running Web apps is too limiting - especially where there is no wifi or edge. As we know there are great native apps like Summerboard/ Springboard and Voice notes. Steve Jobs is ignorant to not know the viability of the Iphone for native 3rd party software and this may reduce future Iphone users. This letter should accompany a petition for all iphone owner who want Apple to release the SDK for 3rd party developers to create native applications. Yes, great letter. The iphone is a brilliant yet simple device. Like the newton it has an inherent beauty yet the newton ( especially the newton 2000 took 3rd party apps to a whole new level. Truly, a product ahead of it’s time. Unfortunately, Jobs cut the Newton and the 3rd party apps back in 1998. However, there are still people like myself who still use them. The Iphone 3rd party apps are great. People want to install their own apps. People want to install widgets. Running Web apps is too limiting – especially where there is no wifi or edge. As we know there are great native apps like Summerboard/ Springboard and Voice notes. Steve Jobs is ignorant to not know the viability of the Iphone for native 3rd party software and this may reduce future Iphone users.

This letter should accompany a petition for all iphone owner who want Apple to release the SDK for 3rd party developers to create native applications.

]]> By: azzamallow http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18847 azzamallow Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:09:40 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18847 apple should "think different"...and do what most mobile devices do...they are thinking different. I dont think it should change, i think they should at least allow users to add a a link to the menu and customise the menu as they see fit, to give it more of an application feel. There are heaps of issues in opening up 3rd party dev to the iPhone, stuff that apple are not interested in dealing with right now (although they are dealing with the hacking issues). Security is the concern, and apple cannot guarantee the user experience if others are putting applications on their platform. Its about the user experience. Things wont "just work" as they will want them to, at least till they can guarantee that then it wont change, and ppl will keep whinging. apple should “think different”…and do what most mobile devices do…they are thinking different.

I dont think it should change, i think they should at least allow users to add a a link to the menu and customise the menu as they see fit, to give it more of an application feel. There are heaps of issues in opening up 3rd party dev to the iPhone, stuff that apple are not interested in dealing with right now (although they are dealing with the hacking issues). Security is the concern, and apple cannot guarantee the user experience if others are putting applications on their platform. Its about the user experience. Things wont “just work” as they will want them to, at least till they can guarantee that then it wont change, and ppl will keep whinging.

]]> By: Bill http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18875 Bill Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:11:24 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18875 What steve jobs e-mail. steve@mac.com? What steve jobs e-mail. steve@mac.com?

]]> By: WizzKid http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18874 WizzKid Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:44:06 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18874 Wrong if he will read it? Awesome letter though, very well worded! As I am from UK ( scotland) I have no idea what the iPhone is like, but tomorrow I will have the iPod Touch (closest to it :) ) Thanks, WizzKid Wrong if he will read it?

Awesome letter though, very well worded! As I am from UK ( scotland) I have no idea what the iPhone is like, but tomorrow I will have the iPod Touch (closest to it :) )

Thanks,

WizzKid

]]> By: Sean http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18873 Sean Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:23:45 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18873 Your email is on the right track, but they need to allow unlocking, too. Anyone who travels overseas knows why. And enough with the "cry me a river" replies. You're right, of course, that Apple is in no way obligated to listen to their customers. They can lock it down, close out developers, brick the innovators' devices, whatever they want. And we can decide not to buy it. But as a lifetime Apple customer, and a stockholder, I think they're making a huge mistake, one that absolutely will cost them significant marketshare in the next few years if they don't turn around. Their technology will be copied, poorly, but well enough that most consumers will happily trade the loss of elegance for increased access to software and better economics. And if this scenario sounds familiar, talk to anyone who, like me, marveled at the Mac in 1984 then turned around and bought a lot of DOS/Windows boxes for the following 15 years. BTW, Nokia just got $400 from me for a very nice unlocked phone. I do love the iPhone interface, but I _want_ access to 3rd party apps and _need_ to travel without paying international roaming rates. Your email is on the right track, but they need to allow unlocking, too. Anyone who travels overseas knows why.

And enough with the “cry me a river” replies. You’re right, of course, that Apple is in no way obligated to listen to their customers. They can lock it down, close out developers, brick the innovators’ devices, whatever they want.

And we can decide not to buy it.

But as a lifetime Apple customer, and a stockholder, I think they’re making a huge mistake, one that absolutely will cost them significant marketshare in the next few years if they don’t turn around. Their technology will be copied, poorly, but well enough that most consumers will happily trade the loss of elegance for increased access to software and better economics. And if this scenario sounds familiar, talk to anyone who, like me, marveled at the Mac in 1984 then turned around and bought a lot of DOS/Windows boxes for the following 15 years.

BTW, Nokia just got $400 from me for a very nice unlocked phone. I do love the iPhone interface, but I _want_ access to 3rd party apps and _need_ to travel without paying international roaming rates.

]]> By: Apple Fever - Today’s Top Blog Posts on Apple - Powered by SocialRank http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18872 Apple Fever - Today’s Top Blog Posts on Apple - Powered by SocialRank Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:04:47 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18872 [...] A plea to Steve [...] [...] A plea to Steve [...]

]]> By: Brandon Eley http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18871 Brandon Eley Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:11:29 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18871 @Slelvin - I think it's a really good possibility they were trying to eliminate the possibility of future "unlock" scripts, but they also knew (hence their announcement) that it would break third party apps. Since it happened, there hasn't been a peep from Apple about a legitimate way to get them back. Hence my letter. @nfoo - I intend to. I am taking a three-prong approach... email (to every address I could find for Steve), snail mail and here on TAB @Slelvin – I think it’s a really good possibility they were trying to eliminate the possibility of future “unlock” scripts, but they also knew (hence their announcement) that it would break third party apps. Since it happened, there hasn’t been a peep from Apple about a legitimate way to get them back. Hence my letter.

@nfoo – I intend to. I am taking a three-prong approach… email (to every address I could find for Steve), snail mail and here on TAB

]]> By: Furies http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18870 Furies Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:54:38 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18870 How about pleading Steve to stop following the money and start concentrating on what really does matter, following deadlines and developing this "vista killer" he's bragged so much about. At this rate we'll probably have 3 generations of over glossy iPods out with DRA ridden spyware *oh wait, they've already done that* before Leopard, and with better interfaces then this weird burnt metallic look. In other words, re-concentrate on what made Apple famous, not what made Apple rich. The iPhone will be dead and buried in the next few years, but Operating Systems and computers will always have a market. In my opinion god bless the hackers that kicked ATT and Apple where it hurts. Maybe next time they won't try to dumb down features for their own money grubbing purposes. Also, why would you voluntarily sell your information to the NSA? ATT just hands them your phone records and addresses incase your a terrorist(s). Hope you don't have an Arabic name. Thank the President for your invasion of Constitutional rights. Believe me, I'm not hating on Apple itself, just some of its business pursuits in the past years. I just happen to be a very disappointed Mac user distressed that Apple is following everything but what everyone loves about them, at least the ones who will STILL use their products if there not shiny and some sort of fashion trend for rich teenagers. How about pleading Steve to stop following the money and start concentrating on what really does matter, following deadlines and developing this “vista killer” he’s bragged so much about. At this rate we’ll probably have 3 generations of over glossy iPods out with DRA ridden spyware *oh wait, they’ve already done that* before Leopard, and with better interfaces then this weird burnt metallic look. In other words, re-concentrate on what made Apple famous, not what made Apple rich. The iPhone will be dead and buried in the next few years, but Operating Systems and computers will always have a market.

In my opinion god bless the hackers that kicked ATT and Apple where it hurts. Maybe next time they won’t try to dumb down features for their own money grubbing purposes.

Also, why would you voluntarily sell your information to the NSA? ATT just hands them your phone records and addresses incase your a terrorist(s). Hope you don’t have an Arabic name. Thank the President for your invasion of Constitutional rights.

Believe me, I’m not hating on Apple itself, just some of its business pursuits in the past years. I just happen to be a very disappointed Mac user distressed that Apple is following everything but what everyone loves about them, at least the ones who will STILL use their products if there not shiny and some sort of fashion trend for rich teenagers.

]]> By: JesseR http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18869 JesseR Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:19:17 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18869 Now, I'm not legal expert but David's quote is pretty ridiculous - the UK is a member of the EU, and they are on a whole different currency. The same situation appears in the Scandinavian countries, and some of eastern Europe. The issue with some European countries is that the iTunes EULA only deal with English law, and individual countries would like the EULA customised for the legal systems of the individual countries. Also, Europeans do not 'expect' unlocked phones. Every service provider issues locked phones with their own SIM card, and there is a fee to unlock - just like in the US. Please get your facts straight... Now, I’m not legal expert but David’s quote is pretty ridiculous – the UK is a member of the EU, and they are on a whole different currency. The same situation appears in the Scandinavian countries, and some of eastern Europe. The issue with some European countries is that the iTunes EULA only deal with English law, and individual countries would like the EULA customised for the legal systems of the individual countries.

Also, Europeans do not ‘expect’ unlocked phones. Every service provider issues locked phones with their own SIM card, and there is a fee to unlock – just like in the US.
Please get your facts straight…

]]> By: JesseR http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18868 JesseR Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:15:47 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18868 David said: "By law, there should only be one big EU iTunes store with one price for all" David said: “By law, there should only be one big EU iTunes store with one price for all”

]]> By: David http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18867 David Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:04:09 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18867 Apple won't notice a drop in sales from their hardball tactics because they lowered the price. That combined with official sales coming soon to 3 European countries will mean a huge boost in revenue. What I can't figure out is how Apple expects to get away with these exclusive deals in Europe. They're already in trouble for having separate iTunes stores and separate prices for individual countries when, by law, there should only be one big European Union iTunes store with one price for all. Add the fact that Europeans expect an unlocked phone and I smell more trouble brewing in iPhoneland. The really big challenge, however, will be Asia. If there's no support for unlocking or 3rd party applications when network support is rolled out in Asia then expect the market to be flooded with counterfeit iPhones. The law is of very little significance when there are millions of dollars to be made and enforcement can be easily bribed to look the other way. Apple won’t notice a drop in sales from their hardball tactics because they lowered the price. That combined with official sales coming soon to 3 European countries will mean a huge boost in revenue. What I can’t figure out is how Apple expects to get away with these exclusive deals in Europe. They’re already in trouble for having separate iTunes stores and separate prices for individual countries when, by law, there should only be one big European Union iTunes store with one price for all. Add the fact that Europeans expect an unlocked phone and I smell more trouble brewing in iPhoneland.
The really big challenge, however, will be Asia. If there’s no support for unlocking or 3rd party applications when network support is rolled out in Asia then expect the market to be flooded with counterfeit iPhones. The law is of very little significance when there are millions of dollars to be made and enforcement can be easily bribed to look the other way.

]]> By: JesseR http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18866 JesseR Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:33:26 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/02/a-plea-to-steve/#comment-18866 To quote a professor of mine: Irritating, annoying, consumer-unfriendly, reason not to buy another Apple product, maybe, but since when does naked pursuit of economic self-interest upset techies? Maybe this is a corollary of last week’s a liberal is a conservative who has been arrested: “a consumer advocate is a techie whose hacked iPhone has been bricked.” To quote a professor of mine:
Irritating, annoying, consumer-unfriendly, reason not to buy another Apple product, maybe, but since when does naked pursuit of economic self-interest upset techies? Maybe this is a corollary of last week’s a liberal is a conservative who has been arrested: “a consumer advocate is a techie whose hacked iPhone has been bricked.”

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