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	<title>Comments on: In Defense of Leopard</title>
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		<title>By: buddhistMonkey</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19084</link>
		<dc:creator>buddhistMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all of the &quot;where are the secret features&quot; folks: they were revealed at WWDC this summer. In case you forgot, they included Stacks, Cover Flow in the Finder, and Quick Look, none of which were mentioned during Leopard&#039;s initial introduction.

But the biggest &quot;secret&quot; feature (which was never actually secret) is Core Animation. You&#039;re going to see some spectacular new user interfaces coming down the pipe soon from Apple and others. Think Time Machine, Cover Flow and Front Row-style 3D motion throughout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all of the &#8220;where are the secret features&#8221; folks: they were revealed at WWDC this summer. In case you forgot, they included Stacks, Cover Flow in the Finder, and Quick Look, none of which were mentioned during Leopard&#8217;s initial introduction.</p>
<p>But the biggest &#8220;secret&#8221; feature (which was never actually secret) is Core Animation. You&#8217;re going to see some spectacular new user interfaces coming down the pipe soon from Apple and others. Think Time Machine, Cover Flow and Front Row-style 3D motion throughout.</p>
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		<title>By: ZingIT &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Leopard is coming</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19085</link>
		<dc:creator>ZingIT &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Leopard is coming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apple Blog has a nice review of Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). TAB covers the big and little, good and bad changes to Apple&#8217;s operating system. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apple Blog has a nice review of Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). TAB covers the big and little, good and bad changes to Apple&#8217;s operating system. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Z</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19051</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find Stacks very compelling as a Finder helper.  Right now I use MoofMenus to pull together similar apps and files into categories based on workflow for easy access, but it&#039;s by no means a perfect solution.  I&#039;m hoping to replace MoofMenu with Stacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find Stacks very compelling as a Finder helper.  Right now I use MoofMenus to pull together similar apps and files into categories based on workflow for easy access, but it&#8217;s by no means a perfect solution.  I&#8217;m hoping to replace MoofMenu with Stacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19087</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This time I will wait... (in case the price drops after 6 weeks)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This time I will wait&#8230; (in case the price drops after 6 weeks)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: That Guy</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19086</link>
		<dc:creator>That Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leopard makes Tiger look like a lame cat. For example, not once in testing the last public build have I seen a beachball. All animation and GUI elements are smooth (and this is on a G5 iMac, not an intel).

I have waited for updates to come out before installing OS X on my production machine in the past. I will NOT be doing that in Leopard. Next friday that sucker is going to be in my hands and on my Mac Pro, and I will be happier and more productive for it! I used to loathe Jaguar after using Tiger. Now I loathe Tiger after using Leopard. It&#039;s so... clumsy and inelegant. Clunky almost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leopard makes Tiger look like a lame cat. For example, not once in testing the last public build have I seen a beachball. All animation and GUI elements are smooth (and this is on a G5 iMac, not an intel).</p>
<p>I have waited for updates to come out before installing OS X on my production machine in the past. I will NOT be doing that in Leopard. Next friday that sucker is going to be in my hands and on my Mac Pro, and I will be happier and more productive for it! I used to loathe Jaguar after using Tiger. Now I loathe Tiger after using Leopard. It&#8217;s so&#8230; clumsy and inelegant. Clunky almost.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Houghton</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19052</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faithful reader for several years now, but this has got to be one of the most ill-informed articles I&#039;ve seen on TAB. Is Mr Akhtar a recent switcher?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faithful reader for several years now, but this has got to be one of the most ill-informed articles I&#8217;ve seen on TAB. Is Mr Akhtar a recent switcher?</p>
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		<title>By: Jac Maloy</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19054</link>
		<dc:creator>Jac Maloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really understand the whole fascination with network storage as a target for backups.

Yes, it&#039;s nice and all, but is backing up your whole hard drive to a remote network volume even close to feasible for anyone with less than a T1?

Even the fastest consumer-level broadband solutions are still going to take hours and hours to back up and restore 100 GBs. Hell, 10 GB isn&#039;t going to happen too quick either.

Time Machine not pointing to remote network locations is a positive, not a negative. Why? because it&#039;s not going to be reliable in the real world except for a small percentage of users while the majority of users would see high failure rates and frustration.

Get a second drive, its cheaper than a T1 and faster. You want offsite storage, get a safe deposit box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really understand the whole fascination with network storage as a target for backups.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s nice and all, but is backing up your whole hard drive to a remote network volume even close to feasible for anyone with less than a T1?</p>
<p>Even the fastest consumer-level broadband solutions are still going to take hours and hours to back up and restore 100 GBs. Hell, 10 GB isn&#8217;t going to happen too quick either.</p>
<p>Time Machine not pointing to remote network locations is a positive, not a negative. Why? because it&#8217;s not going to be reliable in the real world except for a small percentage of users while the majority of users would see high failure rates and frustration.</p>
<p>Get a second drive, its cheaper than a T1 and faster. You want offsite storage, get a safe deposit box.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19053</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iyaz Akhtar comments regarding Time Machine &quot;Leopard also has its share of items which are a mixed bag. Time machine is a good idea, but it does require an external hard drive. A better idea would be online storage through Google since Apple and Google are working together.&quot;

Online storage is okay for supplementing your existing back up strategy, but is not a good idea as a primary back up tool. first, many online backup alternatives are slow (like .Mac), have limited storage space, and require Internet access.

I&#039;m not at a point yet where I want to trust my data to someone else at a nameless data center in who knows where.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iyaz Akhtar comments regarding Time Machine &#8220;Leopard also has its share of items which are a mixed bag. Time machine is a good idea, but it does require an external hard drive. A better idea would be online storage through Google since Apple and Google are working together.&#8221;</p>
<p>Online storage is okay for supplementing your existing back up strategy, but is not a good idea as a primary back up tool. first, many online backup alternatives are slow (like .Mac), have limited storage space, and require Internet access.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not at a point yet where I want to trust my data to someone else at a nameless data center in who knows where.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Leopard Love Affair - The Apple Blog</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19056</link>
		<dc:creator>Your Leopard Love Affair - The Apple Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Akhtar wrote earlier about some of the new features in Leopard, set to debut in nine days. The full list spans over 300 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Akhtar wrote earlier about some of the new features in Leopard, set to debut in nine days. The full list spans over 300 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eytan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19055</link>
		<dc:creator>Eytan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ncus...
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;ncus&quot;&gt;...which is &lt;b&gt;mostly&lt;/b&gt; just a redesign and eyecandy &lt;/blockquote&gt;
(emphasis mine)
actually, that is the least of it - that is just what you, as a user, see. Under the hood it is &lt;b&gt;SIGNIFICANTLY&lt;/b&gt; changed. Believe me, it does not take 2.5 years to add eyecandy and redesign...
As I said before, the features that enable new classes of applications are phenomenal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ncus&#8230;</p>
<blockquote cite="ncus"><p>&#8230;which is <b>mostly</b> just a redesign and eyecandy </p></blockquote>
<p>(emphasis mine)<br />
actually, that is the least of it &#8211; that is just what you, as a user, see. Under the hood it is <b>SIGNIFICANTLY</b> changed. Believe me, it does not take 2.5 years to add eyecandy and redesign&#8230;<br />
As I said before, the features that enable new classes of applications are phenomenal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ncus</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19083</link>
		<dc:creator>ncus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not going to pre-order leopard. And really not excited with the current features, which is mostly just a redesign and eyecandy.

I am still waiting for the holy secret features (if exsist). But sooner or later i will upgrade all my Macs at office.

What i really need is unexpired BOOTCAMP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not going to pre-order leopard. And really not excited with the current features, which is mostly just a redesign and eyecandy.</p>
<p>I am still waiting for the holy secret features (if exsist). But sooner or later i will upgrade all my Macs at office.</p>
<p>What i really need is unexpired BOOTCAMP!</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19082</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider the review silly because it begins with an entire paragraph &lt;b&gt;knocking&lt;/b&gt; the Finder, though one would assume that the reviewer somehow actually likes Leopard&#039;s Finder. (Based on the paragraph&#039;s inclusion in the big-deal section of the article.)

Spend a paragraph talking about the improved iChat, but only talk about the slideshow feature? What about screen sharing? What about share-anywhere screen or files via .Mac?

Time Machine is &quot;a good idea&quot; and then on to criticize it, without mentioning any of it&#039;s cool implementation or how it&#039;s different from old-fashioned backups? Spaces is simply a rehashed virtual desktop, which Microsoft already did years ago?

Yes, I think &quot;silly&quot; is actually a kind way of putting it. It goes way beyond a different viewpoint, into something so idiosyncratic as to be, well, silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider the review silly because it begins with an entire paragraph <b>knocking</b> the Finder, though one would assume that the reviewer somehow actually likes Leopard&#8217;s Finder. (Based on the paragraph&#8217;s inclusion in the big-deal section of the article.)</p>
<p>Spend a paragraph talking about the improved iChat, but only talk about the slideshow feature? What about screen sharing? What about share-anywhere screen or files via .Mac?</p>
<p>Time Machine is &#8220;a good idea&#8221; and then on to criticize it, without mentioning any of it&#8217;s cool implementation or how it&#8217;s different from old-fashioned backups? Spaces is simply a rehashed virtual desktop, which Microsoft already did years ago?</p>
<p>Yes, I think &#8220;silly&#8221; is actually a kind way of putting it. It goes way beyond a different viewpoint, into something so idiosyncratic as to be, well, silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Eytan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19081</link>
		<dc:creator>Eytan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - what an awful review. It is amazing all you were looking for is eye candy, and what you see in the list of 300, some of them just explained as one bullet item &quot;Core Animation&quot; for example....
Just because it is not listed as having syrup and cherries does not mean that a LOT of effort has gone into adding AMAZING functionality &quot;Under the hood&quot; to enable a whole class of new applications and functionality. While you seem to be looking for application features, the core of an OS upgrade is just that - an OS upgrade - Frameworks, Toolbox, Core functionality. THis is the heaviest change to the OS since 10.0, and as part of that OS X gets full UNIX compliancy - which will see MANY more apps coming to the Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; what an awful review. It is amazing all you were looking for is eye candy, and what you see in the list of 300, some of them just explained as one bullet item &#8220;Core Animation&#8221; for example&#8230;.<br />
Just because it is not listed as having syrup and cherries does not mean that a LOT of effort has gone into adding AMAZING functionality &#8220;Under the hood&#8221; to enable a whole class of new applications and functionality. While you seem to be looking for application features, the core of an OS upgrade is just that &#8211; an OS upgrade &#8211; Frameworks, Toolbox, Core functionality. THis is the heaviest change to the OS since 10.0, and as part of that OS X gets full UNIX compliancy &#8211; which will see MANY more apps coming to the Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Benji XI</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19080</link>
		<dc:creator>Benji XI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly suspect a separate partition of the same drive could be used for TM backups, though that would defeat much of the purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly suspect a separate partition of the same drive could be used for TM backups, though that would defeat much of the purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Stretch</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19079</link>
		<dc:creator>Stretch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #13 Igor,
Time Machine does require a second HD, whether it is external or internal doesn&#039;t matter, but since the majority of Macs only hold 1 internal drive, its pointing to most people needing an external drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #13 Igor,<br />
Time Machine does require a second HD, whether it is external or internal doesn&#8217;t matter, but since the majority of Macs only hold 1 internal drive, its pointing to most people needing an external drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor Malyarov</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19078</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor Malyarov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give up. I&#039;t impossible to beat a professional writer who&#039;s not reading other people words. Don&#039;t waste time to answer - I quit and unsubscribe. You lose a reader. Have luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give up. I&#8217;t impossible to beat a professional writer who&#8217;s not reading other people words. Don&#8217;t waste time to answer &#8211; I quit and unsubscribe. You lose a reader. Have luck.</p>
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		<title>By: S.G.</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19077</link>
		<dc:creator>S.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to other comments, positive or negative ones, is something I&#039;m free to do as a commenter to this post.     I choose to respond to, or challenge, those negative comments that I find are illogical.  You&#039;ll find that is what I&#039;ve done with my previous two posts.  As far as &quot;growing up&quot;, I&#039;ve been taught that challenging another&#039;s arguments or thoughts is not childish.  Such challenges are not only the basis for comment boards such as this one, but also a key force behind many of the advancements made in science, society, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to other comments, positive or negative ones, is something I&#8217;m free to do as a commenter to this post.     I choose to respond to, or challenge, those negative comments that I find are illogical.  You&#8217;ll find that is what I&#8217;ve done with my previous two posts.  As far as &#8220;growing up&#8221;, I&#8217;ve been taught that challenging another&#8217;s arguments or thoughts is not childish.  Such challenges are not only the basis for comment boards such as this one, but also a key force behind many of the advancements made in science, society, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor Malyarov</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19076</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor Malyarov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to S.G. (#16 and #18)R U going to comment all negative comments here by turning them upside-down?  I&#039;ve been playing this game long ago in school. May be you should grow up? Or you get some $$ for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to S.G. (#16 and #18)R U going to comment all negative comments here by turning them upside-down?  I&#8217;ve been playing this game long ago in school. May be you should grow up? Or you get some $$ for this?</p>
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		<title>By: Benji XI</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19075</link>
		<dc:creator>Benji XI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: S.G.</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/10/16/in-defense-of-leopard/#comment-19074</link>
		<dc:creator>S.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Man, I’m seeing a lot of silly reviews of Leopard, including this one.

Reading your comment about silly reviews of Leopard, I must wonder--do you feel a review must cover every single new aspect of a piece of software or hardware for the review to be &quot;not silly&quot;?  The reviewer may not have addressed some new features you found to be impressive, or  was less impressed with a feature you liked, such as Spaces, but that doesn&#039;t make the review silly.  Even products rated highly by CNET or PCMAG, for example, have reviews that don&#039;t necessarily cover EVERY feature, nor do they focus entirely on everything they love about the product.  Any good review, even one titled &quot;In defense of..&quot;, would not be credible unless it provides a discussion of some negatives. I&#039;d rather read an article that gives me the good with some bad rather than one that tries to make me feel all warm and fuzzy by telling me that every aspect of the product is &quot;great&quot; or &quot;spectacular&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Man, I’m seeing a lot of silly reviews of Leopard, including this one.</p>
<p>Reading your comment about silly reviews of Leopard, I must wonder&#8211;do you feel a review must cover every single new aspect of a piece of software or hardware for the review to be &#8220;not silly&#8221;?  The reviewer may not have addressed some new features you found to be impressive, or  was less impressed with a feature you liked, such as Spaces, but that doesn&#8217;t make the review silly.  Even products rated highly by CNET or PCMAG, for example, have reviews that don&#8217;t necessarily cover EVERY feature, nor do they focus entirely on everything they love about the product.  Any good review, even one titled &#8220;In defense of..&#8221;, would not be credible unless it provides a discussion of some negatives. I&#8217;d rather read an article that gives me the good with some bad rather than one that tries to make me feel all warm and fuzzy by telling me that every aspect of the product is &#8220;great&#8221; or &#8220;spectacular&#8221;.</p>
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