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	<title>Comments on: Waiting for Leopard to change its spots/dots</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Ellenberg</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111956</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Ellenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm waiting on 10.5.1 for a couple reasons. First, because I don't want to deal with #.0 bugs. They are there, they are real, and there's no reason to upgrade into them unless you just really enjoy being the first on your block to see the new shiny. Not to say there's anything wrong with buying something new, it's just that --&#62; Secondly, and more importantly, I need all my apps to work when I upgrade. I do a/v editing and processing, and I'm keeping a close eye on the developer's blogs and/or release notes for those magic words, "Leopard compatibility." Waiting on 10.5.1 also gives Apple time to fix bugs in the OS which affect these applications, so even the problems that some of your apps may have had with the retail release will be (potentially) resolved with the dot release.

An avid reader,
Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m waiting on 10.5.1 for a couple reasons. First, because I don&#8217;t want to deal with #.0 bugs. They are there, they are real, and there&#8217;s no reason to upgrade into them unless you just really enjoy being the first on your block to see the new shiny. Not to say there&#8217;s anything wrong with buying something new, it&#8217;s just that &#8211;&gt; Secondly, and more importantly, I need all my apps to work when I upgrade. I do a/v editing and processing, and I&#8217;m keeping a close eye on the developer&#8217;s blogs and/or release notes for those magic words, &#8220;Leopard compatibility.&#8221; Waiting on 10.5.1 also gives Apple time to fix bugs in the OS which affect these applications, so even the problems that some of your apps may have had with the retail release will be (potentially) resolved with the dot release.</p>
<p>An avid reader,<br />
Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Rolf</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111952</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, 
I have not taken the plunge, just testing out on external Firewire HD (on a clone via archive&#38;install) because too many small important (software-)pieces are still missing. Nevertheless, you mentioning the firewall issues make me aware that I really donot knwo how to deal with them: set up a secondary ipfw-firewall (via Waterhouse) in addition to Apples new one? What rooles to give it – I am NOT a developer or computer-geek at all? Could you give zi some thought and provide simple folks like me with  tutorial or guide on this?

Thanks a bunch,

Rolf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I have not taken the plunge, just testing out on external Firewire HD (on a clone via archive&amp;install) because too many small important (software-)pieces are still missing. Nevertheless, you mentioning the firewall issues make me aware that I really donot knwo how to deal with them: set up a secondary ipfw-firewall (via Waterhouse) in addition to Apples new one? What rooles to give it – I am NOT a developer or computer-geek at all? Could you give zi some thought and provide simple folks like me with  tutorial or guide on this?</p>
<p>Thanks a bunch,</p>
<p>Rolf</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111945</link>
		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I joined in with the throng of other folks who increased Apple sales by a quarter of a million dollars in just two days&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you mean quarter of a billion dollars ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I joined in with the throng of other folks who increased Apple sales by a quarter of a million dollars in just two days</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you mean quarter of a billion dollars &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111942</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Entica:

I've had a flawless experience with Leopard so far (admittedly I did a clean install, but I always do that with a new OS).  I always find it funny that everyone pines for a dot release of an OS assuming that Apple basically released a Beta OS when 10.5 came out.  I realize there were problems like this when 10.0 first came out that basically necessitated the dot releases before any sane person would consider installing, but we are on 10.5 now folks.

I understand that people's mileage will vary, but all of the crowing about edge case weirdness with Leopard won't affect 80% of the people that will use it.  Yet stories like this, with headlines like this would imply that there is something seriously wrong with 10.5 and you shouldn't consider it until 10.5.1--which is hooey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Entica:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a flawless experience with Leopard so far (admittedly I did a clean install, but I always do that with a new OS).  I always find it funny that everyone pines for a dot release of an OS assuming that Apple basically released a Beta OS when 10.5 came out.  I realize there were problems like this when 10.0 first came out that basically necessitated the dot releases before any sane person would consider installing, but we are on 10.5 now folks.</p>
<p>I understand that people&#8217;s mileage will vary, but all of the crowing about edge case weirdness with Leopard won&#8217;t affect 80% of the people that will use it.  Yet stories like this, with headlines like this would imply that there is something seriously wrong with 10.5 and you shouldn&#8217;t consider it until 10.5.1&#8211;which is hooey.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111938</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parallels coherence mode + spaces will change the way you work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parallels coherence mode + spaces will change the way you work.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Kaas</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111937</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Kaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in the same situation like you and did the opposite!
Leopard is now running on all of my families macs.
I had trouble with installing it on my iMac 17" though.
But the machine was backup up, so i did a clean install there and restored the users from the backup.
there are some glitches i came across:
- parental controls killed my admin accounts dashboard (but could fix this with some trickying)
- parallels needed an update to build 5540 (but runs now fine for me)
- some "special" hardware behaves a little bit different (some USB smart card reader)
- firewall behaviour is fine for me - little snitch is doing the rest

Otherwise here are the benefits:
- Spotlight is much faster
- OS seems "snappier"
- Quickview is GREAT, so is Finder coverflow, when you have to work with folders full of docs or screenshots
- TIME MACHINE makes me sleep wonderfull (even though i always synced my 2 machines MBP and iMac with chronosync and do so)
- new Mail with embedded IMAP Idle - this alone is a "bringer" for me
- Dock &#38; Preference syncing via .mac
- SPACES anyone!?

So far i don't have to regret my decision.
In contrast to you i already know my key applications work! ;-)
You still have all the migration work to do... :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the same situation like you and did the opposite!<br />
Leopard is now running on all of my families macs.<br />
I had trouble with installing it on my iMac 17&#8243; though.<br />
But the machine was backup up, so i did a clean install there and restored the users from the backup.<br />
there are some glitches i came across:<br />
- parental controls killed my admin accounts dashboard (but could fix this with some trickying)<br />
- parallels needed an update to build 5540 (but runs now fine for me)<br />
- some &#8220;special&#8221; hardware behaves a little bit different (some USB smart card reader)<br />
- firewall behaviour is fine for me - little snitch is doing the rest</p>
<p>Otherwise here are the benefits:<br />
- Spotlight is much faster<br />
- OS seems &#8220;snappier&#8221;<br />
- Quickview is GREAT, so is Finder coverflow, when you have to work with folders full of docs or screenshots<br />
- TIME MACHINE makes me sleep wonderfull (even though i always synced my 2 machines MBP and iMac with chronosync and do so)<br />
- new Mail with embedded IMAP Idle - this alone is a &#8220;bringer&#8221; for me<br />
- Dock &amp; Preference syncing via .mac<br />
- SPACES anyone!?</p>
<p>So far i don&#8217;t have to regret my decision.<br />
In contrast to you i already know my key applications work! <img src='http://theappleblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
You still have all the migration work to do&#8230; :-))</p>
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		<title>By: Entica</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111936</link>
		<dc:creator>Entica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow my experience has been quite the opposite. I couldn't imagine what I did before Leopard. I personally have four macs and I've also installed it on my immediate family's macs. 

There have been zero problems and everything is running great. The incredible speed boost of the OS is worth the upgrade on it's own let alone Time Machine and how much quick look has improved my workflow speed.

My family have been amazed at how much better Leopard is and certainly I don't need to "think of a reason" to install it for them. Like I said previously, the speed boost alone has made a huge difference on their machines.

I definitely recommend a Leopard upgrade to anyone. Sure there's a couple minor issues that will be ironed out in the next update but for 99% of people those aren't deal breaker issues and the current release will blow you away.

E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow my experience has been quite the opposite. I couldn&#8217;t imagine what I did before Leopard. I personally have four macs and I&#8217;ve also installed it on my immediate family&#8217;s macs. </p>
<p>There have been zero problems and everything is running great. The incredible speed boost of the OS is worth the upgrade on it&#8217;s own let alone Time Machine and how much quick look has improved my workflow speed.</p>
<p>My family have been amazed at how much better Leopard is and certainly I don&#8217;t need to &#8220;think of a reason&#8221; to install it for them. Like I said previously, the speed boost alone has made a huge difference on their machines.</p>
<p>I definitely recommend a Leopard upgrade to anyone. Sure there&#8217;s a couple minor issues that will be ironed out in the next update but for 99% of people those aren&#8217;t deal breaker issues and the current release will blow you away.</p>
<p>E.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111934</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiting for TAB to implement a spell checker. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting for TAB to implement a spell checker. <img src='http://theappleblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: MacFan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111933</link>
		<dc:creator>MacFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I too am waiting for 10.5.1
It's oh so tempting though x_X</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I too am waiting for 10.5.1<br />
It&#8217;s oh so tempting though x_X</p>
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		<title>By: Eric3</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2007/11/12/waiting-for-leopard-to-change-its-spotsdots/#comment-111932</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Waiting to change 'it's' spots"??? ARRRRRGGHH!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Waiting to change &#8216;it&#8217;s&#8217; spots&#8221;??? ARRRRRGGHH!!</p>
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