Comments on: OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta Rocks Aqua On Intel http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:12:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Dave http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-127323 Dave Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:12:24 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-127323 For scripting, OOo has command line tools + macros. If you want to do something in AppleScript, you can always find the binary "soffice" inside the package, use the terminal sudo ln -s "path-to-soffice" "/usr/bin", and then invoke Open Office in Applescript by do shell script "soffice -invisible ..." and run any soffice macro invisibly by Applescript. Kind of a roundabout way of doing it, but better than GUI scripting... For scripting, OOo has command line tools + macros. If you want to do something in AppleScript, you can always find the binary “soffice” inside the package, use the terminal sudo ln -s “path-to-soffice” “/usr/bin”, and then invoke Open Office in Applescript by do shell script “soffice -invisible …” and run any soffice macro invisibly by Applescript. Kind of a roundabout way of doing it, but better than GUI scripting…

]]> By: Folle Rec http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-121840 Folle Rec Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:52:37 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-121840 I'm a long time NeoOffice user (since 1.0 up to current). I've downloaded OOo 3.0 Final and the two most obvious things I've noticed upon 15 minutes of opening up several of my daily working files are: 1. Arial 10 is bigger in OOo than in NeoOffice. 2. OOo is faster to load. I mean really fast. On a MacBook mid-2008 model. That's the the first impression. The font thing seems really strange to me as opening up the same document in both makes it look different. I'll have to experiment some more if it really is different or just my eyes playing tricks on me. Looks are important if you work with the same document everyday (my personal password-protected financial file) and whenever I create forms for the office. They have to be exact so that if anyone else modifies a form, it doesn't turn from a 1-page form into a 1-page + 1 line form. I’m a long time NeoOffice user (since 1.0 up to current). I’ve downloaded OOo 3.0 Final and the two most obvious things I’ve noticed upon 15 minutes of opening up several of my daily working files are:

1. Arial 10 is bigger in OOo than in NeoOffice.
2. OOo is faster to load. I mean really fast. On a MacBook mid-2008 model.

That’s the the first impression. The font thing seems really strange to me as opening up the same document in both makes it look different. I’ll have to experiment some more if it really is different or just my eyes playing tricks on me. Looks are important if you work with the same document everyday (my personal password-protected financial file) and whenever I create forms for the office. They have to be exact so that if anyone else modifies a form, it doesn’t turn from a 1-page form into a 1-page + 1 line form.

]]> By: AC http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-120222 AC Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:56:34 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-120222 Have they managed to *finally* keep absolute references is a formula from being broken? If a cell contains the formula '=$A$1+C1+D1' and I click on the formula and drag the $a$1 reference with my mouse to, say, B1, the formula now reads '=$B$1:B1+c1+d1' instead of '=$B$1+C1+D1' as it should be. Has this been fixed in 3.0? Have they managed to *finally* keep absolute references is a formula from being broken? If a cell contains the formula ‘=$A$1+C1+D1′ and I click on the formula and drag the $a$1 reference with my mouse to, say, B1, the formula now reads ‘=$B$1:B1+c1+d1′ instead of ‘=$B$1+C1+D1′ as it should be. Has this been fixed in 3.0?

]]> By: Michael Moore http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-118269 Michael Moore Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:01:00 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-118269 If you want individual launchers for the different parts of OpenOffice.org, I created some you can download here: http://stuporglue.org/openoffice.org-aqua-launchers.php These are separate launchers for Calc, Write, Impress, etc. There is another download on the same page for command line launchers like on Linux (oocalc, oowrite, etc.) If you want individual launchers for the different parts of OpenOffice.org, I created some you can download here:

http://stuporglue.org/openoffice.org-aqua-launchers.php

These are separate launchers for Calc, Write, Impress, etc.

There is another download on the same page for command line launchers like on Linux (oocalc, oowrite, etc.)

]]> By: Dave http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-116925 Dave Thu, 22 May 2008 14:28:29 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-116925 What a find -- a recipe application. I have an old recipe/cookbook app that I did in VB6 sometime ago. We are thinking about re-doing in in Java so it is easily cross-platform (not that Java is the only way to do this), or use OOv3. I could use some insight as I have not had the time to experiment with OOv3. 1. Did you need to do a relational design to list all of the ingredients? Normally the recipe would have a file number to be used as an idex for the ingredients as well as any other lists. 2. If a relational database was not used, how would one do something like this: Amount Item Note 1 Cup Apples, tart Peeled, cored, cut to 1/2-inch pcs. 1 Cup rhubarb, fresh sliced 1/2-inch pcs. Thanks, Dave What a find — a recipe application. I have an old recipe/cookbook app that I did in VB6 sometime ago. We are thinking about re-doing in in Java so it is easily cross-platform (not that Java is the only way to do this), or use OOv3. I could use some insight as I have not had the time to experiment with OOv3.
1. Did you need to do a relational design to list all of the ingredients? Normally the recipe would have a file number to be used as an idex for the ingredients as well as any other lists.
2. If a relational database was not used, how would one do something like this:
Amount Item Note
1 Cup Apples, tart Peeled, cored, cut to 1/2-inch pcs.
1 Cup rhubarb, fresh sliced 1/2-inch pcs.

Thanks,
Dave

]]> By: SolidOffice » Blog Archive » More OOo 3.0 Mac Reviews http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-116923 SolidOffice » Blog Archive » More OOo 3.0 Mac Reviews Thu, 22 May 2008 14:10:10 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-116923 [...] One: Reviewed on The Apple Blog: “The first noticeable item is how quickly OpenOffice 3.0 beta loads, even when compared with [...] [...] One: Reviewed on The Apple Blog: “The first noticeable item is how quickly OpenOffice 3.0 beta loads, even when compared with [...]

]]> By: millions http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-116684 millions Wed, 14 May 2008 14:40:05 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-116684 I'm curious how it compares to NeoOffice too. I get a weekly excel sheet that doesn't import into NeoOffice and I'd heard it was a bug in the openoffice software. It works in Numbers, but Numbers doesn't import all the shading. It'd be nice to find one application that will import Microsoft Office files without changing formatting or anything else. THAT would be an application worth having. It's hard to write a resume or paper on pages or NeoOffice and wonder if it's going to look screwed up for the person who opens it with Word on a pc. I’m curious how it compares to NeoOffice too. I get a weekly excel sheet that doesn’t import into NeoOffice and I’d heard it was a bug in the openoffice software. It works in Numbers, but Numbers doesn’t import all the shading. It’d be nice to find one application that will import Microsoft Office files without changing formatting or anything else. THAT would be an application worth having.

It’s hard to write a resume or paper on pages or NeoOffice and wonder if it’s going to look screwed up for the person who opens it with Word on a pc.

]]> By: Lucky http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-116662 Lucky Tue, 13 May 2008 16:59:01 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-116662 You must be kidding? Rocks Aqua? :P You guys should wait until version 4 is released. That one will respect the Apple Interface Guidelines. This one sucks (in terms of looks). I mean yes, it's progress and I appreciate that. It's great. But as a Mac user who likes to see real Mac apps, this just looks like a bad port. I can't wait for version 4 :) I do wish to congratulate them on porting all the code to something Mac OS native. You must be kidding? Rocks Aqua? :P You guys should wait until version 4 is released. That one will respect the Apple Interface Guidelines.

This one sucks (in terms of looks). I mean yes, it’s progress and I appreciate that. It’s great. But as a Mac user who likes to see real Mac apps, this just looks like a bad port.

I can’t wait for version 4 :)

I do wish to congratulate them on porting all the code to something Mac OS native.

]]> By: Office Alternatives for Mac | Rick Tech http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-116660 Office Alternatives for Mac | Rick Tech Tue, 13 May 2008 15:42:47 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-116660 [...] to beat. While Neo Office was forked from Open Office quite some time ago, they are still only in beta support for OS X, so it’s best to remain with Neo Office for quite some time [...] [...] to beat. While Neo Office was forked from Open Office quite some time ago, they are still only in beta support for OS X, so it’s best to remain with Neo Office for quite some time [...]

]]> By: James Bow http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-116641 James Bow Mon, 12 May 2008 17:25:51 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-116641 What I'd be interested in hearing is your impressions of Open Office 3.0 compared to NeoOffice, since these two branches of the same basic program are now in competition with each other. I've tested the two together, and noticed that OOO was a little quicker on the opening, but NeoOffice seemed to consume less RAM. Also, I can switch between documents with the option-tilde in NeoOffice, and I can't do that in OpenOffice, which is a little annoying. What I’d be interested in hearing is your impressions of Open Office 3.0 compared to NeoOffice, since these two branches of the same basic program are now in competition with each other.

I’ve tested the two together, and noticed that OOO was a little quicker on the opening, but NeoOffice seemed to consume less RAM. Also, I can switch between documents with the option-tilde in NeoOffice, and I can’t do that in OpenOffice, which is a little annoying.

]]> By: cmfnyc http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-116629 cmfnyc Mon, 12 May 2008 15:13:19 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-116629 Thanks for the thorough review, which has me excited that I might finally be able to finally knockout Office from my system. While I love most features of Pages '08, it is still a .doc world. Pages does a good job of exporting to .doc, but it's not flawless. So I've needed Word for final cleanup. If OpenOffice makes a near perfect export, that changes everything. The same goes for Calc. I like Numbers, but it's definitely 1.0 software. If Calc has what Numbers doesn't, then I'm covered there. Keynote is untouchable, so no worries there. What's most exciting is that I may finally be able to wean my staff off Word. They are unhappy with Word, but reluctant to embrace Pages (having to zip archive every email attachment, if you don't use Mail, doesn't exactly inspire). Adopting OpenOffice will be an easier sell. Which makes me think...I can create our reporting templates in the far better page layout application Pages and have them use the .doc export in OpenOffice. Hmmm. Thanks for the thorough review, which has me excited that I might finally be able to finally knockout Office from my system. While I love most features of Pages ‘08, it is still a .doc world. Pages does a good job of exporting to .doc, but it’s not flawless. So I’ve needed Word for final cleanup. If OpenOffice makes a near perfect export, that changes everything. The same goes for Calc. I like Numbers, but it’s definitely 1.0 software. If Calc has what Numbers doesn’t, then I’m covered there. Keynote is untouchable, so no worries there.

What’s most exciting is that I may finally be able to wean my staff off Word. They are unhappy with Word, but reluctant to embrace Pages (having to zip archive every email attachment, if you don’t use Mail, doesn’t exactly inspire). Adopting OpenOffice will be an easier sell. Which makes me think…I can create our reporting templates in the far better page layout application Pages and have them use the .doc export in OpenOffice. Hmmm.

]]> By: Galley http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/12/openofficeorg-30-beta-rocks-aqua-on-intel/#comment-116628 Galley Mon, 12 May 2008 14:53:36 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=3207#comment-116628 You wouldn't like me then. I use spreadsheets to create business forms, and they look damn good! You wouldn’t like me then. I use spreadsheets to create business forms, and they look damn good!

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