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	<title>Comments on: AT&#038;T: Pay full price for the iPhone 3G; Use it with another mobile carrier</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rajesh</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-120083</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Lot and lot of people are cursing themselves not to having that of much amount and missing their desire to have iphone. Seriously price is really high, but recently came to know that Airtel has tied up with banks to provide iphone with easy EMI option. It can be checked at:

http://www.airtel.in/iphone3g
Rajesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Lot and lot of people are cursing themselves not to having that of much amount and missing their desire to have iphone. Seriously price is really high, but recently came to know that Airtel has tied up with banks to provide iphone with easy EMI option. It can be checked at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.airtel.in/iphone3g" rel="nofollow">http://www.airtel.in/iphone3g</a><br />
Rajesh</p>
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		<title>By: Hitesh</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-120082</link>
		<dc:creator>Hitesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 

Now, I am giving second thought to iPhone as it is available with EMI option as well. Saw this info on Airtel site (http://www.airtel.in/iphone3g)

Hitesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>
<p>Now, I am giving second thought to iPhone as it is available with EMI option as well. Saw this info on Airtel site (http://www.airtel.in/iphone3g)</p>
<p>Hitesh</p>
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		<title>By: Kush</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-119309</link>
		<dc:creator>Kush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Guys ive purchased an iphone 3G from USA , last week and its locked to AT&#38;T , Currently im in india and i cannot use my local Sim card &#124;&#124; Vodafone &#124;&#124; on it...

Are there are chances where i can use my vodafone india Sim card on this phone ..

please reply ,

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Guys ive purchased an iphone 3G from USA , last week and its locked to AT&amp;T , Currently im in india and i cannot use my local Sim card || Vodafone || on it&#8230;</p>
<p>Are there are chances where i can use my vodafone india Sim card on this phone ..</p>
<p>please reply ,</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-119224</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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Cell Phone
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Talk Time 5 Hours
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Screen Size (Diagonal) 3.5 inch

Screen Resolution 320 x 480
Multimedia
Built-in Digital Camera Built-in Digital Camera

Digital Camera Resolution 2 Megapixels
Communication
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brand new Mobile phone Plasma tv , Laptop game at cheap price come with complete accessories with one year international warranty.</p>
<p>Email address : <a href="mailto:mary_sales005@hotmail.com">mary_sales005@hotmail.com</a></p>
<p>NINTENDO WII&#8230;&#8230;.$250USD<br />
NOKIA N95 8GB&#8230;.$400USD<br />
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<p>AND MANY MORE…………</p>
<p>FULL SPECIFICATION FOR APPLE IPHONE 8GB</p>
<p>Apple iPhone (8 GB) Smartphone</p>
<p>Key Features<br />
Type PDA / Cell Phone</p>
<p>Operating System Proprietary</p>
<p>Installed Memory 8 GB<br />
Technical Features<br />
Input Method Touch Screen</p>
<p>Interface Type USB 2.0 . Bluetooth Wireless Technology . Wi-Fi</p>
<p>PDA Special Features Vertical And Horizontal Display . GSM . Cellular Phone . EDGE<br />
Cell Phone<br />
Cell Phone Band GSM 850 . GSM 900 . GSM 1800 . GSM 1900 . EDGE</p>
<p>Talk Time 5 Hours<br />
Display<br />
Screen Size (Diagonal) 3.5 inch</p>
<p>Screen Resolution 320 x 480<br />
Multimedia<br />
Built-in Digital Camera Built-in Digital Camera</p>
<p>Digital Camera Resolution 2 Megapixels<br />
Communication<br />
Wireless Capabilities Built-in Wireless . WLAN 802.11b . WLAN 802.11g . Bluetooth<br />
Battery<br />
Battery Life 16 Hours<br />
Dimensions<br />
Width 2.4 in.</p>
<p>Depth 0.46 in.</p>
<p>Height 4.5 in.</p>
<p>Weight 4.8 o</p>
<p>WE MAKE SHIPPMENT VIA UPS OR FEDEX EXPRESS OR DHL EXPRESS IN 2 DAYS AFTER CONFIRMATION OF PAYMENT&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ibela</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118647</link>
		<dc:creator>ibela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid question but where would I go about getting that uncontracted iphone even if it is unlocked?  Apple stores don't just give them out (I tried), AT&#38;T stores wants 2 year plan signed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid question but where would I go about getting that uncontracted iphone even if it is unlocked?  Apple stores don&#8217;t just give them out (I tried), AT&amp;T stores wants 2 year plan signed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: foudordi</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118594</link>
		<dc:creator>foudordi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi.

I'm a student coming to the U.S. next year. 
I would like an iPhone but ATT's prices are really high.
Since I'll have to pay termination fees after 10 months anyway (or is there a special termination condition for foreign students??), I was wondering if it's possible to just buy the iphone, keep ATT's plan for a month, and then pay the 200$ or so termination fees. It's still 200$ less than full price... and then I can unlock it with a crack. 

Another question : is it possible to use Tmobiles's t-zone plan with the iphone 3G? still compatible with Edge?

Thanks !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a student coming to the U.S. next year.<br />
I would like an iPhone but ATT&#8217;s prices are really high.<br />
Since I&#8217;ll have to pay termination fees after 10 months anyway (or is there a special termination condition for foreign students??), I was wondering if it&#8217;s possible to just buy the iphone, keep ATT&#8217;s plan for a month, and then pay the 200$ or so termination fees. It&#8217;s still 200$ less than full price&#8230; and then I can unlock it with a crack. </p>
<p>Another question : is it possible to use Tmobiles&#8217;s t-zone plan with the iphone 3G? still compatible with Edge?</p>
<p>Thanks !</p>
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		<title>By: steffiny</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118544</link>
		<dc:creator>steffiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey i want to buy iphone 3g but without an at&#38;t connection. is it possible that a friend of mine with an at%t connection purchases it for me so that i get the iphone and he keeps using the connection with another mobile?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey i want to buy iphone 3g but without an at&amp;t connection. is it possible that a friend of mine with an at%t connection purchases it for me so that i get the iphone and he keeps using the connection with another mobile?</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone on T-Mobile</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118511</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone on T-Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I would love to get my hands on an iphone3G to use with T-mobile in New York. Somebody tell me how I can do that? Apple won't sell me one in their store without an AT&#38;T account..... Is that Monopoly or what??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I would love to get my hands on an iphone3G to use with T-mobile in New York. Somebody tell me how I can do that? Apple won&#8217;t sell me one in their store without an AT&amp;T account&#8230;.. Is that Monopoly or what??</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118449</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you come from asia, you will be very used to paying USD500-600 for unsubsidized high-end phones. Although I hate the fact that Apple made AT&#38;T the "exclusive" service provider, I don't think is all that expensive for the features you get. In fact, its even cheaper than high end Nokia phones. The problem with US is that everyone is so used to using not-so-good free/cheap phones with contract.

I am planning to get the iPhone 3G to be used with T-Mobile. I am only paying around USD 30 per month for voice only. I don't plan to use 3G that much as I will always be surrounded by wi-fi. Unlocking the iPhone 3G? I don't think it is going to be a problem. Personally, as a software engineer, I don't think it's impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you come from asia, you will be very used to paying USD500-600 for unsubsidized high-end phones. Although I hate the fact that Apple made AT&amp;T the &#8220;exclusive&#8221; service provider, I don&#8217;t think is all that expensive for the features you get. In fact, its even cheaper than high end Nokia phones. The problem with US is that everyone is so used to using not-so-good free/cheap phones with contract.</p>
<p>I am planning to get the iPhone 3G to be used with T-Mobile. I am only paying around USD 30 per month for voice only. I don&#8217;t plan to use 3G that much as I will always be surrounded by wi-fi. Unlocking the iPhone 3G? I don&#8217;t think it is going to be a problem. Personally, as a software engineer, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Nix</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118358</link>
		<dc:creator>Nix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to buy the new iphone 3g but I really agree w/ #10 Marty. I have a SK (slide) &#38; its cost me $60. maintain my service. It is definately cheaper and that monthly price covers everything including unlmtd web browsing &#38; txt messaging in the U.S. Going w/ t-mobile as a provider for the iphone is cheaper. But the cost and risk  of unlocking the 3g iphone is scary because if you fail to unlock phone it turns into a brick phone, braking (no insurace), uploading new data to update phone will brick the phone as well for what I've learned. Otherwise it is a good phone, T-mobile if there network supports the iphone 3g would be a good provider to unlock with &#38; if you really like the phone and willing to take the chance of purchasing  unlocked... go for it but learn as much about the unlocked version and the pros/cons of the iphone 3g. I will!!100% but that's just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to buy the new iphone 3g but I really agree w/ #10 Marty. I have a SK (slide) &amp; its cost me $60. maintain my service. It is definately cheaper and that monthly price covers everything including unlmtd web browsing &amp; txt messaging in the U.S. Going w/ t-mobile as a provider for the iphone is cheaper. But the cost and risk  of unlocking the 3g iphone is scary because if you fail to unlock phone it turns into a brick phone, braking (no insurace), uploading new data to update phone will brick the phone as well for what I&#8217;ve learned. Otherwise it is a good phone, T-mobile if there network supports the iphone 3g would be a good provider to unlock with &amp; if you really like the phone and willing to take the chance of purchasing  unlocked&#8230; go for it but learn as much about the unlocked version and the pros/cons of the iphone 3g. I will!!100% but that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Wallentine</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118347</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Wallentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomorrow.  Full price.  And I don't have a clue what that would be, but I do not care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomorrow.  Full price.  And I don&#8217;t have a clue what that would be, but I do not care.</p>
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		<title>By: nikolaus heger</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118314</link>
		<dc:creator>nikolaus heger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this confusion comes from the retarded mobile phone market in the USA. In other countries, everyone understands what subsidized means, what contract-free means, and what unlocked means. Each of these ways of purchasing has a different up-front cost and a different running cost - it's not that hard, really.

Optus in Australia already said it would sell _unlocked_ iPhones that you can use with any SIM of your choice for about USD 750. In fact, they'll sell you all three choices - they'll sell you a very cheap iPhone with a 2 year contract; A pre-paid iPhone for USD 690. And an unlocked one for 750. It's up to you which one works best for you.

If I was an American, and not traveling much, the AT&#38;T prices are pretty reasonable. The only other option for GSM phones is T-Mobile which has a very similar pricing structure to AT&#38;T so the ability to switch to T-Mobile (USA) is pretty much worthless. Locking is no big deal.

I am, however, traveling a lot, and living in Asia most of the time so the only version that's useful for me is unlocked. That way, in any country I go to, I can just go to the store, buy a pre-paid card for $10, and have a cell phone with local calling rates. I spend equal amounts of time in Europe, Asia, and the USA and I have a prepaid in each country, and when I am there people can reach me by my local number, and I can make calls at cheap rates, but I retain my phone and address book. I just swap SIMs on the plane. 

If we have learned anything from the 1st generation iPhone, it is that no matter what the official pricing and sales policies are, global markets (and grey dealers) ensure that where there's a demand, it will be filled at reasonable prices. The only thing dealers needs to decide is whether it wants to sell stuff or prevent sales. A pretty simple choice, I think. If AT&#38;T is not selling the iPhone unlocked, others will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this confusion comes from the retarded mobile phone market in the USA. In other countries, everyone understands what subsidized means, what contract-free means, and what unlocked means. Each of these ways of purchasing has a different up-front cost and a different running cost - it&#8217;s not that hard, really.</p>
<p>Optus in Australia already said it would sell _unlocked_ iPhones that you can use with any SIM of your choice for about USD 750. In fact, they&#8217;ll sell you all three choices - they&#8217;ll sell you a very cheap iPhone with a 2 year contract; A pre-paid iPhone for USD 690. And an unlocked one for 750. It&#8217;s up to you which one works best for you.</p>
<p>If I was an American, and not traveling much, the AT&amp;T prices are pretty reasonable. The only other option for GSM phones is T-Mobile which has a very similar pricing structure to AT&amp;T so the ability to switch to T-Mobile (USA) is pretty much worthless. Locking is no big deal.</p>
<p>I am, however, traveling a lot, and living in Asia most of the time so the only version that&#8217;s useful for me is unlocked. That way, in any country I go to, I can just go to the store, buy a pre-paid card for $10, and have a cell phone with local calling rates. I spend equal amounts of time in Europe, Asia, and the USA and I have a prepaid in each country, and when I am there people can reach me by my local number, and I can make calls at cheap rates, but I retain my phone and address book. I just swap SIMs on the plane. </p>
<p>If we have learned anything from the 1st generation iPhone, it is that no matter what the official pricing and sales policies are, global markets (and grey dealers) ensure that where there&#8217;s a demand, it will be filled at reasonable prices. The only thing dealers needs to decide is whether it wants to sell stuff or prevent sales. A pretty simple choice, I think. If AT&amp;T is not selling the iPhone unlocked, others will.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118309</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want an iPhone but there is no way I'll switch to At&#38;t. Even if they did approve me! Their prices are ridiculous. I'll just stick to my iPod Touch lol &#38; sidekick. ...one day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want an iPhone but there is no way I&#8217;ll switch to At&amp;t. Even if they did approve me! Their prices are ridiculous. I&#8217;ll just stick to my iPod Touch lol &amp; sidekick. &#8230;one day!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118289</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For that price and headache, I'll just carry around my laptop and use SKYPE! LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For that price and headache, I&#8217;ll just carry around my laptop and use SKYPE! LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118288</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-mobile IS significantly less expensive in my experience.  I have my wife using an unlocked iphone on t-mobile and her monthly bill is $54 (us).  This includes 1500 talk minutes and unlimited data via the 4.99$ t-zones service (now I think it's 5.99$).

This is ridiculously cheaper then the prices I see published for AT&#38;T iphone users which seem way too expensive to me.

Also this article never mentions that the 3G feature isn't going to work on T-mobile, because as far as I know t-mobile has no 3G network to speak of in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-mobile IS significantly less expensive in my experience.  I have my wife using an unlocked iphone on t-mobile and her monthly bill is $54 (us).  This includes 1500 talk minutes and unlimited data via the 4.99$ t-zones service (now I think it&#8217;s 5.99$).</p>
<p>This is ridiculously cheaper then the prices I see published for AT&amp;T iphone users which seem way too expensive to me.</p>
<p>Also this article never mentions that the 3G feature isn&#8217;t going to work on T-mobile, because as far as I know t-mobile has no 3G network to speak of in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Petri</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118285</link>
		<dc:creator>Petri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A subsidized phone doesn't mean you're covered any better than with a $600 phone.  With a subsidized phone you _DO_ pay the full price for the phone over the subscription time and if you break the phone during the contract, you loose as well.  Subsidized phones are all about keeping the customers for 18-24 months and how to arrange the financing, just like buying vs. leasing a car.

iPhone 3G unsubsidized price is in-line with the best phone from e.g. Samsung and Nokia.  They are high-end phones with high-end pricing and Steve Jobs' $199 was just pure marketing without any substance.  He could have said $1 if AT&#38;T would subsidize the phone even more, with higher monthly fees.

Selling the iPhone 3G for unsubsidized price but locked to a certain carrier is just plain wrong, almost criminal.

I've never had a subsidized phone, I have changed by carrier a few times and I don't remember that I would have used the same phone for more than 18 months.  Almost all the old phones have found a new home, either through a auction site or to friends and family.  And yes, I'm interested to buy the iPhone 3G but I won't be doing the local carrier's 24-month contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A subsidized phone doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re covered any better than with a $600 phone.  With a subsidized phone you _DO_ pay the full price for the phone over the subscription time and if you break the phone during the contract, you loose as well.  Subsidized phones are all about keeping the customers for 18-24 months and how to arrange the financing, just like buying vs. leasing a car.</p>
<p>iPhone 3G unsubsidized price is in-line with the best phone from e.g. Samsung and Nokia.  They are high-end phones with high-end pricing and Steve Jobs&#8217; $199 was just pure marketing without any substance.  He could have said $1 if AT&amp;T would subsidize the phone even more, with higher monthly fees.</p>
<p>Selling the iPhone 3G for unsubsidized price but locked to a certain carrier is just plain wrong, almost criminal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had a subsidized phone, I have changed by carrier a few times and I don&#8217;t remember that I would have used the same phone for more than 18 months.  Almost all the old phones have found a new home, either through a auction site or to friends and family.  And yes, I&#8217;m interested to buy the iPhone 3G but I won&#8217;t be doing the local carrier&#8217;s 24-month contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Chowning</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118284</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Chowning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i certainly would not buy it at that price. phones of the same type can be purchased for, at most, $400-500. 

Purchase prices of $600-700 just isn't an option. Let's be real. It's still a phone. It can be dropped (literally) and dead in an instant. 

Moreover, phones are disposable. Apple proves that by offering a new version only a year after they launch the original. 

Unless your money bags, dropping 600-700 on a toy that you'll use and replace in another year isn't realistic for me...especially in this economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i certainly would not buy it at that price. phones of the same type can be purchased for, at most, $400-500. </p>
<p>Purchase prices of $600-700 just isn&#8217;t an option. Let&#8217;s be real. It&#8217;s still a phone. It can be dropped (literally) and dead in an instant. </p>
<p>Moreover, phones are disposable. Apple proves that by offering a new version only a year after they launch the original. </p>
<p>Unless your money bags, dropping 600-700 on a toy that you&#8217;ll use and replace in another year isn&#8217;t realistic for me&#8230;especially in this economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Hall</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118283</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live/travel all over South Carolina and the AT&#38;T coverage has never given me any problems.  Trust me, I've been to the most rural places you can get.  You should find someone with AT&#38;T and give it another shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live/travel all over South Carolina and the AT&amp;T coverage has never given me any problems.  Trust me, I&#8217;ve been to the most rural places you can get.  You should find someone with AT&amp;T and give it another shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Pacmantech</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118281</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacmantech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The quality of writing keeps going down and down on this site - not just the fact that the article wasn't proofread, but that the whole article is not researched!

Just about ready to take TAB off my blogroll. I am curious to know whether the author was paid to write this article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The quality of writing keeps going down and down on this site - not just the fact that the article wasn&#8217;t proofread, but that the whole article is not researched!</p>
<p>Just about ready to take TAB off my blogroll. I am curious to know whether the author was paid to write this article!</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118280</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you pay full price, and assuming it is unlocked, you still are limited to T-Mobile in the US (though you can hook up with other PAYG choices around the world).  So it's not like you save $70; you still need to pay a fee for voice and data service and right now, I don't see T-Mobile's rates (monthly or PAYG) being much less (if at all).  

Thus, I can see only 5 reasons for going unlocked:
1. You use it overseas most of the time.
2. You don't want to pay for voice (i.e. use data only), though I'm not sure AT&#38;T or T-Mobile allow this.
3. You don't want to pay for data (i.e. use voice only)
4. You want to use T-Mobile's service and coverage.
5. You want to use PAYG, instead of a monthly fixed fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you pay full price, and assuming it is unlocked, you still are limited to T-Mobile in the US (though you can hook up with other PAYG choices around the world).  So it&#8217;s not like you save $70; you still need to pay a fee for voice and data service and right now, I don&#8217;t see T-Mobile&#8217;s rates (monthly or PAYG) being much less (if at all).  </p>
<p>Thus, I can see only 5 reasons for going unlocked:<br />
1. You use it overseas most of the time.<br />
2. You don&#8217;t want to pay for voice (i.e. use data only), though I&#8217;m not sure AT&amp;T or T-Mobile allow this.<br />
3. You don&#8217;t want to pay for data (i.e. use voice only)<br />
4. You want to use T-Mobile&#8217;s service and coverage.<br />
5. You want to use PAYG, instead of a monthly fixed fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Opal Tribble</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118279</link>
		<dc:creator>Opal Tribble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have been clearer regarding that yes it is still locked to the AT&#038;T network, as I mentioned in the last paragraph, but it is possible to unlock it to use with other carriers. If the first iPhone is any indication, it will only be a matter of time before the iPhone 3G is unlocked so it can be used with other mobile carriers.

Personally I think I'll wait until it is open to other mobile carriers before I make the purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have been clearer regarding that yes it is still locked to the AT&#038;T network, as I mentioned in the last paragraph, but it is possible to unlock it to use with other carriers. If the first iPhone is any indication, it will only be a matter of time before the iPhone 3G is unlocked so it can be used with other mobile carriers.</p>
<p>Personally I think I&#8217;ll wait until it is open to other mobile carriers before I make the purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118278</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read they are still locked even with PrePay. Exclusive deal for 5 years. 4 to go.

I wouldn't buy it unsubsidized. Way too much. I'm thinking of asking someone who needs an AT&#38;T contract anyway but has a phone for a favor :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read they are still locked even with PrePay. Exclusive deal for 5 years. 4 to go.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t buy it unsubsidized. Way too much. I&#8217;m thinking of asking someone who needs an AT&amp;T contract anyway but has a phone for a favor <img src='http://theappleblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: bluemarlin1402</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluemarlin1402</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazes me how uninformed supposed writers are.  An unsubsidized iphone IS NOT an unlocked iphone.  This article is based on completely untrue information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me how uninformed supposed writers are.  An unsubsidized iphone IS NOT an unlocked iphone.  This article is based on completely untrue information.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Qazi</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/07/07/att-says-pay-full-price-for-the-iphone-3g-use-it-another-mobile-carrier/#comment-118275</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar Qazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Switching to AT&#38;T is not an option? What would work better? Not T-Mobile, the only other GSM carrier in the USA. Verizon won't work with the iPhone because there phones are CDMA. 

Also the $600 and $700 phones are sold without a contract, which doesn't necessarily mean that they are sold unlocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switching to AT&amp;T is not an option? What would work better? Not T-Mobile, the only other GSM carrier in the USA. Verizon won&#8217;t work with the iPhone because there phones are CDMA. </p>
<p>Also the $600 and $700 phones are sold without a contract, which doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that they are sold unlocked.</p>
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