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		<title>By: RENT A CAR</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-47772</link>
		<dc:creator>RENT A CAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice blog</description>
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		<title>By: RENT A CAR</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-47771</link>
		<dc:creator>RENT A CAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good bye</description>
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		<title>By: RENT A CAR</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-47770</link>
		<dc:creator>RENT A CAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good blog thanks</description>
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		<title>By: lida</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-47768</link>
		<dc:creator>lida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice blog thans</description>
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		<title>By: Lida Diyet</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-40810</link>
		<dc:creator>Lida Diyet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd - I agree. If the letters of denial to the App Store were not covered in the main NDA that people had to agree to, I don’t see how they could be enforced. Apple (nor anyone else) should be able NDA things on an ad-hoc basis. But as I mentioned in the post, who’s got the lawyers in their back pocket willing to go up against the big Apple?

I say go for it - I’d buy “NDA” in protest…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd &#8211; I agree. If the letters of denial to the App Store were not covered in the main NDA that people had to agree to, I don’t see how they could be enforced. Apple (nor anyone else) should be able NDA things on an ad-hoc basis. But as I mentioned in the post, who’s got the lawyers in their back pocket willing to go up against the big Apple?</p>
<p>I say go for it &#8211; I’d buy “NDA” in protest…</p>
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		<title>By: 11 ways iPod Touch beats the Newton &#171; Newton Poetry</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-24137</link>
		<dc:creator>11 ways iPod Touch beats the Newton &#171; Newton Poetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] writing is easier. That&#8217;s at least party true these days. Find a NewtonScript manual, boot up your text file, and start slashing away at a Newton app. Now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] writing is easier. That&#8217;s at least party true these days. Find a NewtonScript manual, boot up your text file, and start slashing away at a Newton app. Now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bevo</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-24139</link>
		<dc:creator>bevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three words for you: Ha. Ha. Ha.

As Todd Baur correctly points out, what do you expect from a company that behaves more like a dictatorship than a publicly held company?

Now, if the boys in Redmond were smart, they would open up the Zune to developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three words for you: Ha. Ha. Ha.</p>
<p>As Todd Baur correctly points out, what do you expect from a company that behaves more like a dictatorship than a publicly held company?</p>
<p>Now, if the boys in Redmond were smart, they would open up the Zune to developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Baur</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-24144</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike I don&#039;t know if you dealt much with Apple legal but they pretty much run their own show. You&#039;re absolutely right, sending in letters to key management might help but we&#039;ll see. I&#039;m certain there are plenty of companies doing that already.

Its in many ways just bigger than this situation. Apple behaved like this in the past. Its arguably one point why Microsoft &amp; its hardware partners were able to push them into near oblivion. Apple is growing and building very large platforms again, putting the people who make it a success under KGB terms once again. The culture of hush needs to cease because it will fail and cement Apple into their downfall once again. Don&#039;t get me wrong either, Apple has information it needs to protect as well however no one at Apple can really justify or talk about it. Oh irony, its good to see you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike I don&#8217;t know if you dealt much with Apple legal but they pretty much run their own show. You&#8217;re absolutely right, sending in letters to key management might help but we&#8217;ll see. I&#8217;m certain there are plenty of companies doing that already.</p>
<p>Its in many ways just bigger than this situation. Apple behaved like this in the past. Its arguably one point why Microsoft &amp; its hardware partners were able to push them into near oblivion. Apple is growing and building very large platforms again, putting the people who make it a success under KGB terms once again. The culture of hush needs to cease because it will fail and cement Apple into their downfall once again. Don&#8217;t get me wrong either, Apple has information it needs to protect as well however no one at Apple can really justify or talk about it. Oh irony, its good to see you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Erik Moström &#187; Sigh, Apple what are you thinking</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-24138</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Erik Moström &#187; Sigh, Apple what are you thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the same subject + Brent Simmons:  + macnn: Apple extends iPhone NDA, rejects Gmail app + theAppleBlog: Apple Covers App Store Denials with NDA + Ned Batchelder: Evil Apple + Fraser Speir: App Store: I&#8217;m out + theAppleBlog: The Broken [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the same subject + Brent Simmons:  + macnn: Apple extends iPhone NDA, rejects Gmail app + theAppleBlog: Apple Covers App Store Denials with NDA + Ned Batchelder: Evil Apple + Fraser Speir: App Store: I&#8217;m out + theAppleBlog: The Broken [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Perry</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-24143</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To complain to Apple, go here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

If there are enough complaints, Apple will have to listen. Letters would help, particularly corporate letters addressed high up the Apple food chain.

Someone might want to see if Chilling Effects, a joint project of &quot;the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, University of San Francisco, University of Maine, George Washington School of Law, and Santa Clara University School of Law clinics,&quot; might be interested in taking on this abuse of non-disclosure agreements.

http://www.chillingeffects.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To complain to Apple, go here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html</a></p>
<p>If there are enough complaints, Apple will have to listen. Letters would help, particularly corporate letters addressed high up the Apple food chain.</p>
<p>Someone might want to see if Chilling Effects, a joint project of &#8220;the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, University of San Francisco, University of Maine, George Washington School of Law, and Santa Clara University School of Law clinics,&#8221; might be interested in taking on this abuse of non-disclosure agreements.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chillingeffects.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chillingeffects.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Santilli</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-24142</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Santilli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd - I agree.  If the letters of denial to the App Store were not covered in the main NDA that people had to agree to, I don&#039;t see how they could be enforced.  Apple (nor anyone else) should be able NDA things on an ad-hoc basis.  But as I mentioned in the post, who&#039;s got the lawyers in their back pocket willing to go up against the big Apple?

I say go for it - I&#039;d buy &quot;NDA&quot; in protest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd &#8211; I agree.  If the letters of denial to the App Store were not covered in the main NDA that people had to agree to, I don&#8217;t see how they could be enforced.  Apple (nor anyone else) should be able NDA things on an ad-hoc basis.  But as I mentioned in the post, who&#8217;s got the lawyers in their back pocket willing to go up against the big Apple?</p>
<p>I say go for it &#8211; I&#8217;d buy &#8220;NDA&#8221; in protest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Baur</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-24141</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are NDA&#039;s even really enforceable under these terms? What justification is there to remove free speech on a platform that is inherently meant to operate with competition between vendors. Imaging the stifling of OS X development if the dev&#039;s in the world couldn&#039;t share code and discuss things.

Seriously Apple, its gotten to the point where I&#039;m ready to build a minimally functioning app called &quot;NDA&quot; and submit it for rejection just to challenge the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are NDA&#8217;s even really enforceable under these terms? What justification is there to remove free speech on a platform that is inherently meant to operate with competition between vendors. Imaging the stifling of OS X development if the dev&#8217;s in the world couldn&#8217;t share code and discuss things.</p>
<p>Seriously Apple, its gotten to the point where I&#8217;m ready to build a minimally functioning app called &#8220;NDA&#8221; and submit it for rejection just to challenge the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: David Crellen</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/23/apple-covers-app-store-denials-with-nda/#comment-24140</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I interpret the text of Apple&#039;s notice that MacRumors reported is that a developer cannot disclose Apple&#039;s message.  I can&#039;t believe that a rejected developer is restrained from telling anyone (i.e., the world via a blog) that Apple rejected the app.  For example, one could say &quot;I can&#039;t believe that Apple rejected my app.  Even if it is nonsensical, let the market determine it.&quot;

I, for one, was totally ignored because I wanted to utilize a hardware feature Apple does not allow (or is reserving for their own use).  Being put on hold was a benefit for me as I now can do it better using Google&#039;s Android and the market potential is huge for the turn-key app including a dedicated hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I interpret the text of Apple&#8217;s notice that MacRumors reported is that a developer cannot disclose Apple&#8217;s message.  I can&#8217;t believe that a rejected developer is restrained from telling anyone (i.e., the world via a blog) that Apple rejected the app.  For example, one could say &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe that Apple rejected my app.  Even if it is nonsensical, let the market determine it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I, for one, was totally ignored because I wanted to utilize a hardware feature Apple does not allow (or is reserving for their own use).  Being put on hold was a benefit for me as I now can do it better using Google&#8217;s Android and the market potential is huge for the turn-key app including a dedicated hardware.</p>
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