Comments on: Flash for iPhone Confirmed; Ball in Apple’s Hands http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/ TheAppleBlog, published by and for the day-to-day Apple user, is a prominent source for news, reviews, walkthroughs, and real life application of all Apple products. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:59:03 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Adobe Flash Player on the iPhone would represent direct competition to Apple’s App Store? - iPhone Newswire http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-28114 Adobe Flash Player on the iPhone would represent direct competition to Apple’s App Store? - iPhone Newswire Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:22:27 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-28114 [...] that plenty of people have noted this reasoning:  like this person and that person and this person and that person. I just didn’t pay enough attention. As I noted above though, there has been [...] [...] that plenty of people have noted this reasoning:  like this person and that person and this person and that person. I just didn’t pay enough attention. As I noted above though, there has been [...]

]]> By: Adobe Flash Player on the iPhone would represent direct competition to Apple’s App Store? | Mobility Site http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-28115 Adobe Flash Player on the iPhone would represent direct competition to Apple’s App Store? | Mobility Site Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:35:24 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-28115 [...] that plenty of people have noted this reasoning:  like this person and that person and this person and that person. I just didn’t pay enough attention. As I noted above though, there has been [...] [...] that plenty of people have noted this reasoning:  like this person and that person and this person and that person. I just didn’t pay enough attention. As I noted above though, there has been [...]

]]> By: ARM-Optimized Flash: Adobe Serious About iPhone | TheAppleBlog http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24306 ARM-Optimized Flash: Adobe Serious About iPhone | TheAppleBlog Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:00:44 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24306 [...] ongoing back-and-forth between Apple and Adobe over Flash on the iPhone is well-documented. First it was, then [...] [...] ongoing back-and-forth between Apple and Adobe over Flash on the iPhone is well-documented. First it was, then [...]

]]> By: PF http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24293 PF Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:45:50 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24293 Flaah, like iphone evolves in a fluid environment and has been steadily becoming more feature rich. Remember the days when you had to be a "guru" just to get flash to connect to a database? If the hardware can handle it, I say let it in. I for one wouldn't mind being able to take advantage if the software as a platform for game design. Flaah, like iphone evolves in a fluid environment and has been steadily becoming more feature rich. Remember the days when you had to be a “guru” just to get flash to connect to a database? If the hardware can handle it, I say let it in. I for one wouldn’t mind being able to take advantage if the software as a platform for game design.

]]> By: pez http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24292 pez Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:39:58 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24292 i don't understand the knee-jerk "apple must be right" answers. are you crazy? a wifi-equipped internet device that can't be used to watch "arrested development" in bed is not one worth having. who wouldn't like to watch it for free on hulu, instead of paying $1.99 per episode on the itunes store? feel free to substitute any show you like. i don’t understand the knee-jerk “apple must be right” answers. are you crazy? a wifi-equipped internet device that can’t be used to watch “arrested development” in bed is not one worth having. who wouldn’t like to watch it for free on hulu, instead of paying $1.99 per episode on the itunes store? feel free to substitute any show you like.

]]> By: Klip http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24305 Klip Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:33:16 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24305 I'm with ya on that Infinite-T, but just a heads up on the local radio station issue: Try the free app titled AOL Radio. It's got TONS of radio stations, including lots of locals. It's probably my favorite app to-date. I’m with ya on that Infinite-T, but just a heads up on the local radio station issue:
Try the free app titled AOL Radio. It’s got TONS of radio stations, including lots of locals. It’s probably my favorite app to-date.

]]> By: Infinite-t http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24304 Infinite-t Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:55:51 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24304 not having flash on my iPhone is really annoying. It's supposed to be this über do all device... Without something as simple as flash, I can't use my banks website, use local news station websites for sports updates and such, no "real" YouTube, ( the ones on the iPhone are a select few that have been converted) no streaming video, no streaming audio ( for my local radio station, cause my uber iPhone ahem.. Doesn't have fm radio. Oh yea, no conection to some of my online community stuff( it's in flash too). Out of all the things I wish it had, is flash. Now before the flaming begins, I am not some super user or rocket scientist or anything, but I am an average joe just like probably 90% of the iPhone users who would like apple to put aside whatever silly isues it has with simple pleasures like flash, mms, fm tuner, sterio blutoothe. I understand some of those would be a hardware issue, but flash would just be a simple update, it would really up the awesomeness , make a lot of current customers happy, probaly encourage many new ones. not having flash on my iPhone is really annoying. It’s supposed to be this über do all device… Without something as simple as flash, I can’t use my banks website, use local news station websites for sports updates and such, no “real” YouTube, ( the ones on the iPhone are a select few that have been converted) no streaming video, no streaming audio ( for my local radio station, cause my uber iPhone ahem.. Doesn’t have fm radio. Oh yea, no conection to some of my online community stuff( it’s in flash too). Out of all the things I wish it had, is flash. Now before the flaming begins, I am not some super user or rocket scientist or anything, but I am an average joe just like probably 90% of the iPhone users who would like apple to put aside whatever silly isues it has with simple pleasures like flash, mms, fm tuner, sterio blutoothe. I understand some of those would be a hardware issue, but flash would just be a simple update, it would really up the awesomeness , make a lot of current customers happy, probaly encourage many new ones.

]]> By: Klip http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24303 Klip Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:15:20 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24303 ^^ agreed. The thought that Flash is just video and animated ads is an outdated assumption. I can't even view the latest headlines at BaltimoreRavens.com (or any other NFL team page) on my iPhone. ^^ agreed. The thought that Flash is just video and animated ads is an outdated assumption.
I can’t even view the latest headlines at BaltimoreRavens.com (or any other NFL team page) on my iPhone.

]]> By: Peter http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24302 Peter Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:08:42 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24302 I think a lot of people here are missing the fact that "Flash" is more than animated ads these days, it's the best, most ubiquitous, platform-independent virtual machine for delivering a desktop-like rich UI experience in a browser that is independent of every browser's bizarre interpretation of CSS, HTML, & Javascript that affects AJAX app development and, more importantly, testing. IMHO, Adobe and Apple need to agree that the distribution model for iPhone apps built in flex needs to be through the AppStore -or- purely browser based. I think a lot of people here are missing the fact that “Flash” is more than animated ads these days, it’s the best, most ubiquitous, platform-independent virtual machine for delivering a desktop-like rich UI experience in a browser that is independent of every browser’s bizarre interpretation of CSS, HTML, & Javascript that affects AJAX app development and, more importantly, testing.

IMHO, Adobe and Apple need to agree that the distribution model for iPhone apps built in flex needs to be through the AppStore -or- purely browser based.

]]> By: Adobe Confirms Flash For iPhone, The Ball Is In Apple’s Court Now http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24291 Adobe Confirms Flash For iPhone, The Ball Is In Apple’s Court Now Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:28:36 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24291 [...] AB Share and Enjoy: [...] [...] AB Share and Enjoy: [...]

]]> By: Adobe trabaja en una versión Flash | Zumo de Iphone http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24290 Adobe trabaja en una versión Flash | Zumo de Iphone Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:21:01 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24290 [...] Fuente: The Apple Blog. [...] [...] Fuente: The Apple Blog. [...]

]]> By: Adam Cleaver http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24301 Adam Cleaver Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:02:55 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24301 This is great news for anyone wanting to deliver brand experiences on mobile phones – it’s just a shame we still don’t know when it will happen. The powerful combination of the iPhone interface with the rich interactivity of Flash is something agencies, marketers and consumers will find hard to resist. Interestingly, we can also envisage a potential cost saving for clients as pre-existing Flash content is repurposed for mobile. At present, it looks like there is only talk about the Flash plug-in on the Safari web browser. As such, Flash widgets per se are not really on the cards yet. Native iPhone widgets/applications in Flash are still a good while away, but we wait with anticipation for the opportunity to use this new technology. This is great news for anyone wanting to deliver brand experiences on mobile phones – it’s just a shame we still don’t know when it will happen. The powerful combination of the iPhone interface with the rich interactivity of Flash is something agencies, marketers and consumers will find hard to resist. Interestingly, we can also envisage a potential cost saving for clients as pre-existing Flash content is repurposed for mobile.

At present, it looks like there is only talk about the Flash plug-in on the Safari web browser. As such, Flash widgets per se are not really on the cards yet. Native iPhone widgets/applications in Flash are still a good while away, but we wait with anticipation for the opportunity to use this new technology.

]]> By: Michael http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24300 Michael Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:08:30 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24300 I've said this form the day we all found out there is no Flash support on the iPhone, we don't need flash. The only viable argument there is for Flash on the iPhone is video, if there is a way to just have a Flash player for video only then I would be all for it, however as far as I know there is not. I have no need for flash ads and pop ups on my mobile device, it's been working great and the apps have been coming along just fine with out Flash. I don't like sites or apps with a lot of flash in my desktop browser and I don't want them in my mobile browser. So I hope Apple keeps Flash off my phone, or at least makes it optional so I can keep my phone Flash free. I’ve said this form the day we all found out there is no Flash support on the iPhone, we don’t need flash. The only viable argument there is for Flash on the iPhone is video, if there is a way to just have a Flash player for video only then I would be all for it, however as far as I know there is not. I have no need for flash ads and pop ups on my mobile device, it’s been working great and the apps have been coming along just fine with out Flash. I don’t like sites or apps with a lot of flash in my desktop browser and I don’t want them in my mobile browser. So I hope Apple keeps Flash off my phone, or at least makes it optional so I can keep my phone Flash free.

]]> By: Klip http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24299 Klip Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:48:21 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24299 I just know that I'd absolutely love to show off video streams from sites like Vimeo, Break, etc. on my iPhone. Windows Mobile now has the Skyfire browser which is just freakin awesome and handles all Flash thrown at it. I just know that I’d absolutely love to show off video streams from sites like Vimeo, Break, etc. on my iPhone. Windows Mobile now has the Skyfire browser which is just freakin awesome and handles all Flash thrown at it.

]]> By: Brian Hogg http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24298 Brian Hogg Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:55:21 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24298 If Apple sits back on their line about security, then, sure, let Flash in. Supposedly the reason that the iTunes App Store is the way it is is to keep everything safe and secure for the user, and Flash is a safe way to bring interactive content to the phone. I'm not sure, #4, how Flash encouraging someone to make a site cool is a bad thing, unless you're talking about needless style over substance, which is a concern with all kinds of design, and isn't specific to Flash. If the argument is about processing power, as I've heard people suggest that the phone isn't fast enough to run Flash well, then I'd say that's a bit of a red herring: after all, the phone can run exceptionally high-quality apps, with full 3d rendering, and drawing a few vectors is much less computationally intensive than that. My guess is that if you let Flash on the phone, you're letting a bunch of app developers into the phone in a way that Apple won't have control over. I don't think it's a revenue saver, specifically, as most people don't charge end-users for content specifically because it's Flash; rather, I mean that right now Apple can turn down any app for any reason, and keep it out of the store. Since Flash apps can equal iPhone apps in technical sophistication, Apple would be, by allowing Flash on the phone, opening up an avenue for "apps" to get on their phone of the kind they wouldn't like. This would be a huge ceding of control from the company. Now, personally I think that would be great, but it's hard to imagine they'd do it. I suppose an important aspect of this is whether Adobe would be able to create a Flash plugin for the browser on the phone, which would make things nice and seamless, or if they'd be restricted to placing a Flash app on the phone, which would make that easy Flash experience a lot less so. If Apple sits back on their line about security, then, sure, let Flash in. Supposedly the reason that the iTunes App Store is the way it is is to keep everything safe and secure for the user, and Flash is a safe way to bring interactive content to the phone.

I’m not sure, #4, how Flash encouraging someone to make a site cool is a bad thing, unless you’re talking about needless style over substance, which is a concern with all kinds of design, and isn’t specific to Flash.

If the argument is about processing power, as I’ve heard people suggest that the phone isn’t fast enough to run Flash well, then I’d say that’s a bit of a red herring: after all, the phone can run exceptionally high-quality apps, with full 3d rendering, and drawing a few vectors is much less computationally intensive than that.

My guess is that if you let Flash on the phone, you’re letting a bunch of app developers into the phone in a way that Apple won’t have control over. I don’t think it’s a revenue saver, specifically, as most people don’t charge end-users for content specifically because it’s Flash; rather, I mean that right now Apple can turn down any app for any reason, and keep it out of the store. Since Flash apps can equal iPhone apps in technical sophistication, Apple would be, by allowing Flash on the phone, opening up an avenue for “apps” to get on their phone of the kind they wouldn’t like. This would be a huge ceding of control from the company. Now, personally I think that would be great, but it’s hard to imagine they’d do it.

I suppose an important aspect of this is whether Adobe would be able to create a Flash plugin for the browser on the phone, which would make things nice and seamless, or if they’d be restricted to placing a Flash app on the phone, which would make that easy Flash experience a lot less so.

]]> By: Rom http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24289 Rom Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:38:11 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24289 No to Flash! I agree that Adobe must have presented this to Apple and it was turned down and now it's drumming up sympathy from Flash lovers to pressure Apple. I'd say - Apple, don't give in OR add a FLASH BLOCKER on Mobile Safari for us who do not like Flash. :P No to Flash! I agree that Adobe must have presented this to Apple and it was turned down and now it’s drumming up sympathy from Flash lovers to pressure Apple. I’d say – Apple, don’t give in OR add a FLASH BLOCKER on Mobile Safari for us who do not like Flash. :P

]]> By: Rich http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24288 Rich Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:56:06 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24288 I don't see Flash as something that is needed. Ironing out bugs in the iPhone Safari to make it fully compliant - Yes, but Flash - No. It always encourages the designer to "make sites cool" and not particularly functional, build unnecessary design, plus it also takes up more processing speed. No thanks Adobe! I don’t see Flash as something that is needed. Ironing out bugs in the iPhone Safari to make it fully compliant – Yes, but Flash – No. It always encourages the designer to “make sites cool” and not particularly functional, build unnecessary design, plus it also takes up more processing speed. No thanks Adobe!

]]> By: Kontra http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24297 Kontra Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:21:03 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24297 Channeling Bush Snr: not gonna happen. Here's why: The new UI wars: Why there's no Flash on iPhone 2.0 http://counternotions.com/2008/06/17/flash-iphone/ Channeling Bush Snr: not gonna happen. Here’s why:

The new UI wars: Why there’s no Flash on iPhone 2.0

http://counternotions.com/2008/06/17/flash-iphone/

]]> By: Flash for iPhone Confirmed, it will be come soon! | Adobe Flash Lite http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24296 Flash for iPhone Confirmed, it will be come soon! | Adobe Flash Lite Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:45:41 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24296 [...] TheAppleBlog, The Flash for iPhone is confirmed, I think this will come [...] [...] TheAppleBlog, The Flash for iPhone is confirmed, I think this will come [...]

]]> By: Klip http://theappleblog.com/2008/09/30/flash-for-the-iphone-confirmed/#comment-24295 Klip Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:06:51 +0000 http://theappleblog.com/?p=5294#comment-24295 Please Apple, do the right thing here! Without real Flash, the iPhone will be obsolete in a year's time. Please Apple, do the right thing here! Without real Flash, the iPhone will be obsolete in a year’s time.

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