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	<title>Comments on: ARM-Optimized Flash: Adobe Serious About iPhone</title>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-42982</link>
		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 09:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to these products so that I can view www.hongkongtourmap.com easily on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to these products so that I can view <a href="http://www.hongkongtourmap.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hongkongtourmap.com</a> easily on the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-37755</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post but I forgot to chose the option for email feedback. =S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post but I forgot to chose the option for email feedback. =S</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-37754</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I have noticed from most of the comments is that the pointless raging anti-flash fellows presume that flash would be apart of the firmware when it could be an optional choice via the Appstore. In my opinion Apple should quit whining about flash and gradually stop their greed for money and complete control. Flash in general would be a great feature to the iPhone for many reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I have noticed from most of the comments is that the pointless raging anti-flash fellows presume that flash would be apart of the firmware when it could be an optional choice via the Appstore. In my opinion Apple should quit whining about flash and gradually stop their greed for money and complete control. Flash in general would be a great feature to the iPhone for many reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Apple, Adobe Working Together On Flash for iPhone? Define &#8220;Together&#8221; - TheAppleBlog</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-30922</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple, Adobe Working Together On Flash for iPhone? Define &#8220;Together&#8221; - TheAppleBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is only the latest development in the long saga of the interactive web tech and Apple&#8217;s game-changing smartphone. So far, nothing seems to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26552</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad Apple will NEVER make or approve any flash software. Think about what would happen to their App Store games. No one would buy because they could play 1000&#039;s of games for free like on Kongregate.com. Why pay anything when you can get it free?? Sure people do navigation and video (and sometimes entire sites) in Flash, but Apple doesn&#039;t care... they can make a mobile site that will work with all devices.

It is the same things as with the Stereo Bluetooth. Why would Apple activate that if they don&#039;t make any stereo bluetooth devices? It is ALL about Apple and not a single bit about the consumer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad Apple will NEVER make or approve any flash software. Think about what would happen to their App Store games. No one would buy because they could play 1000&#8217;s of games for free like on Kongregate.com. Why pay anything when you can get it free?? Sure people do navigation and video (and sometimes entire sites) in Flash, but Apple doesn&#8217;t care&#8230; they can make a mobile site that will work with all devices.</p>
<p>It is the same things as with the Stereo Bluetooth. Why would Apple activate that if they don&#8217;t make any stereo bluetooth devices? It is ALL about Apple and not a single bit about the consumer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Cano</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26551</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris Cano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really would love to see flash on the iphone, I google it atleast once a week to check on the progress.  I get frustrated because I&#039;m an avid sports fan and flash is needed to run things MLBtv and NBA all access.  Also, every time I go the my favorite teams&#039; websites something there always has to deal with flash so that I am not able to view it (websites like Buffalobills.com and celtics.com for example).  I say apple makes it an option of wether you want it or not on your iphone so that the people on here that don&#039;t can also get what they want, I&#039;m not very knowledgeable on this subject but correct me if I&#039;m wrong on a seemingly very diplomatic solution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really would love to see flash on the iphone, I google it atleast once a week to check on the progress.  I get frustrated because I&#8217;m an avid sports fan and flash is needed to run things MLBtv and NBA all access.  Also, every time I go the my favorite teams&#8217; websites something there always has to deal with flash so that I am not able to view it (websites like Buffalobills.com and celtics.com for example).  I say apple makes it an option of wether you want it or not on your iphone so that the people on here that don&#8217;t can also get what they want, I&#8217;m not very knowledgeable on this subject but correct me if I&#8217;m wrong on a seemingly very diplomatic solution?</p>
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		<title>By: KOPN Tech Radio &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News Bytes for 11/24/2008</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26550</link>
		<dc:creator>KOPN Tech Radio &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News Bytes for 11/24/2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Adobe announces ARM-optimized Flash (for iPhone), coming in 2009 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: edel*flash &#187; Flash auf dem iPhone?</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26549</link>
		<dc:creator>edel*flash &#187; Flash auf dem iPhone?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] die neuste Meldung lässt uns alle wieder hoffen. Anscheinend ist Adobe dran, eine Version von Flash Player 10 zu [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26548</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Flash develloper I miss the lack od Flash support on the iPhone, especially on my iPhone. But as a develloper in other programing languages, and a wise guy I can understand that Apple doesn&#039;t want Flash to enter the iPhone as an &quot;auxiliary&quot; OS. Let&#039;s face it, we entered a couple of years ago in the OS war, not only on mobile devices. Everyone knows that Flash and AS3 could act as an OS on any device.
To take an automotive comparaison, would chevy allow Lexus sell hybrid enabled electric motors to chevy owners? Chevy owners would soon ask GM to sell them cars without engines in order to by Lexus hybrid combos...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Flash develloper I miss the lack od Flash support on the iPhone, especially on my iPhone. But as a develloper in other programing languages, and a wise guy I can understand that Apple doesn&#8217;t want Flash to enter the iPhone as an &#8220;auxiliary&#8221; OS. Let&#8217;s face it, we entered a couple of years ago in the OS war, not only on mobile devices. Everyone knows that Flash and AS3 could act as an OS on any device.<br />
To take an automotive comparaison, would chevy allow Lexus sell hybrid enabled electric motors to chevy owners? Chevy owners would soon ask GM to sell them cars without engines in order to by Lexus hybrid combos&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe Bringing Flash to More Platforms &#124; What a n00b!</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26536</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe Bringing Flash to More Platforms &#124; What a n00b!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rumors have been flying for some time, but yesterday Adobe announced it would be focusing on a build for the ARM platform. Of course, the iPhone isn&#8217;t the only phone that runs on ARM processors, but it&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rumors have been flying for some time, but yesterday Adobe announced it would be focusing on a build for the ARM platform. Of course, the iPhone isn&#8217;t the only phone that runs on ARM processors, but it&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bud</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26547</link>
		<dc:creator>bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flash should have never encapsulated video content when there were already open standards (except for promoting themselves).  The only time lack of flash ever is a real problem on the iPhone, is when some webmaster insists on the home page of a site being some bloated flash interface monstrosity.

Unfortunately, the embedded video play worked, and kept Flash going for exactly the wrong reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flash should have never encapsulated video content when there were already open standards (except for promoting themselves).  The only time lack of flash ever is a real problem on the iPhone, is when some webmaster insists on the home page of a site being some bloated flash interface monstrosity.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the embedded video play worked, and kept Flash going for exactly the wrong reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26529</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caret:

No, a much better analogy is Ford refusing to sell its cars to a taxi business operated by Chevy. It&#039;s not a perfect analogy, but it better captures the anti-competitive nature of Apple&#039;s maneuvering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caret:</p>
<p>No, a much better analogy is Ford refusing to sell its cars to a taxi business operated by Chevy. It&#8217;s not a perfect analogy, but it better captures the anti-competitive nature of Apple&#8217;s maneuvering.</p>
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		<title>By: Caret</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26531</link>
		<dc:creator>Caret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tubes are buzzing with this &quot;controversy&quot;. One locked-down company refusing to use the proprietary technology of another locked-down company on its own proprietary product? Hmmm...

Maybe a good analogy would be Ford refusing to put a Chevy transmission in one of their cars. The whole thing is about controlling the future of a product and also controlling the future of parts and tools. It&#039;s not about the merits or deficiencies of said transmission.

Meanwhile some little kids only see their selfish little desires. Yelling I want it, I want it, I want it, is neither useful nor likely to solve the major issues, which clearly are not technological in nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tubes are buzzing with this &#8220;controversy&#8221;. One locked-down company refusing to use the proprietary technology of another locked-down company on its own proprietary product? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe a good analogy would be Ford refusing to put a Chevy transmission in one of their cars. The whole thing is about controlling the future of a product and also controlling the future of parts and tools. It&#8217;s not about the merits or deficiencies of said transmission.</p>
<p>Meanwhile some little kids only see their selfish little desires. Yelling I want it, I want it, I want it, is neither useful nor likely to solve the major issues, which clearly are not technological in nature.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26535</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m missing the point, but flash in the browser seems to come in three flavors:

1) YouTube video
2) Games
3) Ads

#1 Can be done in H.264 without a browser plug=in.The iPhone already does that. There&#039;s no reason for a video site not to have an AVC version.

#2 Are flash based games needed when there are App Store games?  Remember when everyone wanted an SDK because they didn&#039;t _want_ browser games?

#3 I want no part of ads on my pages. Why add a flash plug in, just so you can add an AdBlockFlash plugin to disable it?


I hear a lot of &quot;You must have Flash&quot; retoric, and a lot of bashing of folks who don&#039;t see the need like #8 Jason&#039;s comments.  What I don&#039;t see a lot of is reasons for what flash brings to the table that can&#039;t be done another way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m missing the point, but flash in the browser seems to come in three flavors:</p>
<p>1) YouTube video<br />
2) Games<br />
3) Ads</p>
<p>#1 Can be done in H.264 without a browser plug=in.The iPhone already does that. There&#8217;s no reason for a video site not to have an AVC version.</p>
<p>#2 Are flash based games needed when there are App Store games?  Remember when everyone wanted an SDK because they didn&#8217;t _want_ browser games?</p>
<p>#3 I want no part of ads on my pages. Why add a flash plug in, just so you can add an AdBlockFlash plugin to disable it?</p>
<p>I hear a lot of &#8220;You must have Flash&#8221; retoric, and a lot of bashing of folks who don&#8217;t see the need like #8 Jason&#8217;s comments.  What I don&#8217;t see a lot of is reasons for what flash brings to the table that can&#8217;t be done another way.</p>
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		<title>By: Loganotron &#187; Blog Archive &#187; iPhone Rumors and News</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26534</link>
		<dc:creator>Loganotron &#187; Blog Archive &#187; iPhone Rumors and News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Adobe&#8217;s Flash might be coming to the iPhone. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: entmike</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26546</link>
		<dc:creator>entmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m given the option whether or not that Flash can run in Safari, I&#039;d love to see Flash finally appear on the iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m given the option whether or not that Flash can run in Safari, I&#8217;d love to see Flash finally appear on the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Bean</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26545</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent. Well written.

jess
http://www.privacy.mx.tc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent. Well written.</p>
<p>jess<br />
<a href="http://www.privacy.mx.tc" rel="nofollow">http://www.privacy.mx.tc</a></p>
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		<title>By: sunflower</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26544</link>
		<dc:creator>sunflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flash needs to die to allow open solutions to flourish.  RIP flash, I wont miss you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flash needs to die to allow open solutions to flourish.  RIP flash, I wont miss you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26543</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if an online petition from the people would help encourage Steve Jobs to put aside his ego and listen to what the people want for a change. The internet is broken on the iphone and touch until it gets flash. Hopefully with the google phone getting flash it will provide incentive for flash to finally come to the iphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if an online petition from the people would help encourage Steve Jobs to put aside his ego and listen to what the people want for a change. The internet is broken on the iphone and touch until it gets flash. Hopefully with the google phone getting flash it will provide incentive for flash to finally come to the iphone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2008/11/17/arm-optimized-flash-adobe-serious-about-iphone/#comment-26533</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I also wouldn’t miss Flash. Now that animation/transitions can be done in Javascript (through a few different techniques), there isn’t really any point...&quot;

Obviously this kid downloads jQuery and suddenly thinks he&#039;s some sort of JS-jedi who can do anything with javascript.  These are the kids who talk about the capabilities of flash as if it were restricted to only showing pictures or or making the navbars that only a rook would make in flash anyway!  And they&#039;ll tell you - &quot;I know all about flash, I use flash all the time&quot;...they mean in the CS interface

Kid, go read a book and ACTUALLY learn a programming language.

...tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I also wouldn’t miss Flash. Now that animation/transitions can be done in Javascript (through a few different techniques), there isn’t really any point&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously this kid downloads jQuery and suddenly thinks he&#8217;s some sort of JS-jedi who can do anything with javascript.  These are the kids who talk about the capabilities of flash as if it were restricted to only showing pictures or or making the navbars that only a rook would make in flash anyway!  And they&#8217;ll tell you &#8211; &#8220;I know all about flash, I use flash all the time&#8221;&#8230;they mean in the CS interface</p>
<p>Kid, go read a book and ACTUALLY learn a programming language.</p>
<p>&#8230;tool.</p>
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