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	<title>Comments on: How Bandwidth Caps Hurt Your Mac &amp; What Apple Can Do About It</title>
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		<title>By: davidrobertlewis</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-66254</link>
		<dc:creator>davidrobertlewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe there is a way to defeat the cap by changing the MAC address of the machine/router, spoofing IP and playing with ARP. I managed to get extra gigs this month, but was then blocked. Still searching for the better method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe there is a way to defeat the cap by changing the MAC address of the machine/router, spoofing IP and playing with ARP. I managed to get extra gigs this month, but was then blocked. Still searching for the better method.</p>
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		<title>By: DariePeredile</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-55127</link>
		<dc:creator>DariePeredile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  http://watchtvonline1.com - watch tv onlinealot, lol some of my favorites are youtube. What are places
can I watch tv online.



Is it legal for me to have  explained here?, and bank accounts? How to start? Can I move my existing business offshore

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  <a href="http://watchtvonline1.com" rel="nofollow">http://watchtvonline1.com</a> &#8211; watch tv onlinealot, lol some of my favorites are youtube. What are places<br />
can I watch tv online.</p>
<p>Is it legal for me to have  explained here?, and bank accounts? How to start? Can I move my existing business offshore</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Traub</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48975</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Traub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting : I can use (claim) 1,500.000 WiFi hotspots all over France

EDIT: tethering only as option : another 30 Euros per month</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting : I can use (claim) 1,500.000 WiFi hotspots all over France</p>
<p>EDIT: tethering only as option : another 30 Euros per month</p>
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		<title>By: infonollningen</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48571</link>
		<dc:creator>infonollningen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... i used 4gig (combined up/down) in two days with my iPhone tethered... 3gig in a month!? Thats just sick.
Here in Sweden I&#039;ve got 10/2 mbit for around 35 bucks a month. No cap, no nothing. Depending on where you live you can get 100/100mbit for around 30 bucks, and ofc no capping...

USA is a sick country :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; i used 4gig (combined up/down) in two days with my iPhone tethered&#8230; 3gig in a month!? Thats just sick.<br />
Here in Sweden I&#8217;ve got 10/2 mbit for around 35 bucks a month. No cap, no nothing. Depending on where you live you can get 100/100mbit for around 30 bucks, and ofc no capping&#8230;</p>
<p>USA is a sick country :D</p>
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		<title>By: AScott</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48538</link>
		<dc:creator>AScott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also the problem with their $10 monthly &quot;cable transport fee&quot; if you don&#039;t sign up for an additional T.V. package. I asked the tech about it, and he said that it&#039;s to pay for them coming out to block out the remaining channels. The one time they have to, and I pay for it every month. 
B.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the problem with their $10 monthly &#8220;cable transport fee&#8221; if you don&#8217;t sign up for an additional T.V. package. I asked the tech about it, and he said that it&#8217;s to pay for them coming out to block out the remaining channels. The one time they have to, and I pay for it every month.<br />
B.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Dampier</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48487</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Dampier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term &quot;capped&quot; refers to the maximum amount of usage you can have at that price point.  Internet Overcharging is a far better, and more accurate term, because it describes the pricing model and what happens when you exceed their arbitrary &quot;cap.&quot;

A $2.00/GB overlimit fee is outrageous.  If you plan to go over, you can buy one of their &quot;bandwidth packs&quot; in pre-set increments, but that pre-supposes you:

a) know you are going to go over before you do;
b) will consume all of that extra pack to avoid letting any go to waste from being unconsumed.

Anyway you look at it, that sunflower is going to cost you more than a dozen roses in other communities.

Lawrence Free-net is a wi-fi proposition at this point, which has been stuck with older technology and signal issues.  It&#039;s not really a comparable competitor in any meaningful way, at least until it can upgrade its technology.  AT&amp;T is currently deploying DSL in Lawrence, which is always dependent on distance from the central switching office (or remote equipment nearby).

If you sit around and read e-mail and look at web pages and do little more, any plan from any provider is going to be fine.  If you start getting interested in transferring files or watching a lot of online video, Sunflower may be faster, but it&#039;s a whole lot more restrictive and potentially obscenely expensive.

Comcast does not throttle speeds -- they were slapped by the FCC for trying a few years ago.  They have a 250GB maximum usage limit, and informally tell customers if they want more than that, buy a second account.  Compared to the egregious pricing of Sunflower, that&#039;s online nirvana.

I am sure any company will be friendly and responsive to a request to add gigabyte packs to your account, because they aren&#039;t free.  That&#039;s money in their pocket.

Should AT&amp;T bring U-verse to Lawrence, they&#039;ll mow down the sunflower at current pricing and terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term &#8220;capped&#8221; refers to the maximum amount of usage you can have at that price point.  Internet Overcharging is a far better, and more accurate term, because it describes the pricing model and what happens when you exceed their arbitrary &#8220;cap.&#8221;</p>
<p>A $2.00/GB overlimit fee is outrageous.  If you plan to go over, you can buy one of their &#8220;bandwidth packs&#8221; in pre-set increments, but that pre-supposes you:</p>
<p>a) know you are going to go over before you do;<br />
b) will consume all of that extra pack to avoid letting any go to waste from being unconsumed.</p>
<p>Anyway you look at it, that sunflower is going to cost you more than a dozen roses in other communities.</p>
<p>Lawrence Free-net is a wi-fi proposition at this point, which has been stuck with older technology and signal issues.  It&#8217;s not really a comparable competitor in any meaningful way, at least until it can upgrade its technology.  AT&amp;T is currently deploying DSL in Lawrence, which is always dependent on distance from the central switching office (or remote equipment nearby).</p>
<p>If you sit around and read e-mail and look at web pages and do little more, any plan from any provider is going to be fine.  If you start getting interested in transferring files or watching a lot of online video, Sunflower may be faster, but it&#8217;s a whole lot more restrictive and potentially obscenely expensive.</p>
<p>Comcast does not throttle speeds &#8212; they were slapped by the FCC for trying a few years ago.  They have a 250GB maximum usage limit, and informally tell customers if they want more than that, buy a second account.  Compared to the egregious pricing of Sunflower, that&#8217;s online nirvana.</p>
<p>I am sure any company will be friendly and responsive to a request to add gigabyte packs to your account, because they aren&#8217;t free.  That&#8217;s money in their pocket.</p>
<p>Should AT&amp;T bring U-verse to Lawrence, they&#8217;ll mow down the sunflower at current pricing and terms.</p>
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		<title>By: doublesix</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48457</link>
		<dc:creator>doublesix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try living in South Africa. Telkom is a fixed line/DSL monopoly. I&#039;ve lived with  3 gig cap for years. Telkom are asking the independent telecommunications authority for all-round increases – but not DSL. Surprise. The cap is being increased from 3 to 5 gig at no extra charge on August 1.  South Africa does not yet have access to the iTunes store so I am spared that.  But upgrades are costly.  Today, I upgraded my old G4 466 with a bunch of Mac upgrades, Quicktime, Security, iTunes etc. Took hours to download more than 4 gig. But, hey, its the last day of the month. Clean slate again tomorrow/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try living in South Africa. Telkom is a fixed line/DSL monopoly. I&#8217;ve lived with  3 gig cap for years. Telkom are asking the independent telecommunications authority for all-round increases – but not DSL. Surprise. The cap is being increased from 3 to 5 gig at no extra charge on August 1.  South Africa does not yet have access to the iTunes store so I am spared that.  But upgrades are costly.  Today, I upgraded my old G4 466 with a bunch of Mac upgrades, Quicktime, Security, iTunes etc. Took hours to download more than 4 gig. But, hey, its the last day of the month. Clean slate again tomorrow/</p>
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		<title>By: Ehren</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48451</link>
		<dc:creator>Ehren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Lawrence too. The cable company here is quite restrictive and pricey even though they say that you get more. When you look at it, you get more of thing you don&#039;t need and less of things you do. So I switched to ATT DSL where I have the same speed they offer with no bandwidth limit. It&#039;s been so good to me and my Mac!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Lawrence too. The cable company here is quite restrictive and pricey even though they say that you get more. When you look at it, you get more of thing you don&#8217;t need and less of things you do. So I switched to ATT DSL where I have the same speed they offer with no bandwidth limit. It&#8217;s been so good to me and my Mac!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian L</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48430</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my perspective, from two different situations...

#1: Golde, CO
Comcast is what everyone uses. They&#039;re relatively fast, reliable, a bit expensive and have a reasonable (250GB) cap. The competition is Qwest, significantly slower, cheaper and uncapped. Qwest may or may not give advertised speeds (or 85% of advertised speeds) depending on system loading; fortunately Comcast gives &#039;em all the time. So while I&#039;d like to do online backup (which would probably put me over my 250GB limit...I do my BitTorrent elsewhere) I&#039;d much rather have 2 Mbit of upload speed vs. 700k, so I stick with Comcast. I recommended Qwest to friends who use BitTorrent and they&#039;re fine with it.

#2 - Fredericksburg, TX
Most places can&#039;t get DSL, and the places that can have one tier - 1.5/512 for $50 per month, minus 15% on speed due to ATM/etc. overhead. So if you&#039;re in town and aren&#039;t a cost-conscious business (cable business rates are e-freaking-xspensive) then you get Time Warner Cable. At the moment, speeds and pricing are decent (768/128 download/upload for $20, 5/384 for $35, 7/512 for $40, 15/2 for $5, top two tiers have download PowerBoost) however they could cap usage at any time and people would have nowhere to go. The only alternatives have lower caps than TWC has proposed (40GB on the top tier). The alternatives are as follows: local overloaded wireless rovider with 25 or 35 GB caps and low speeds, cellular broadband with decent speeds but 5GB caps, satellite internet with high latency, low speeds and caps topping out under 25GB.

Now I&#039;m as much against disgustingly low bandwidth caps as the next guy, but Lawrence does have competition that&#039;s not capped (AT&amp;T DSL) and SFB&#039;s overages, when purchased in blocks, aren&#039;t too ridiculous (50¢ per GB when you buy a $25 addon).

Plus, 3GB is more than enough for operating system updates and such, plus light web surfing and e-mail, which that tier is made for. 15GB is enough for some more stuff. 50GB can even do online video in some capacity, etc. Though you have to remember that online video is a competitor to SFB&#039;s cable TV service, so it&#039;s in their interest to make all online video pay-per-view in some way or other.

As a bit of light at the end of the tunnel, AT&amp;T will eventually launch U-Verse in most of their areas. Granted, they&#039;ve tested caps as well, but AT&amp;T&#039;s caps top out at 150GB on U-Verse tiers, which is greatly preferable to 50GB on SUnflower Broadband. AT&amp;T also has some decent speed tiers on U-Verse (12/1.5 Mbit/s or 18/1.5 iif you want to pay a little extra).

In short, if you have decent-speed uncapped competition and don&#039;t like SUnflower Broadband&#039;s caps, use the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my perspective, from two different situations&#8230;</p>
<p>#1: Golde, CO<br />
Comcast is what everyone uses. They&#8217;re relatively fast, reliable, a bit expensive and have a reasonable (250GB) cap. The competition is Qwest, significantly slower, cheaper and uncapped. Qwest may or may not give advertised speeds (or 85% of advertised speeds) depending on system loading; fortunately Comcast gives &#8216;em all the time. So while I&#8217;d like to do online backup (which would probably put me over my 250GB limit&#8230;I do my BitTorrent elsewhere) I&#8217;d much rather have 2 Mbit of upload speed vs. 700k, so I stick with Comcast. I recommended Qwest to friends who use BitTorrent and they&#8217;re fine with it.</p>
<p>#2 &#8211; Fredericksburg, TX<br />
Most places can&#8217;t get DSL, and the places that can have one tier &#8211; 1.5/512 for $50 per month, minus 15% on speed due to ATM/etc. overhead. So if you&#8217;re in town and aren&#8217;t a cost-conscious business (cable business rates are e-freaking-xspensive) then you get Time Warner Cable. At the moment, speeds and pricing are decent (768/128 download/upload for $20, 5/384 for $35, 7/512 for $40, 15/2 for $5, top two tiers have download PowerBoost) however they could cap usage at any time and people would have nowhere to go. The only alternatives have lower caps than TWC has proposed (40GB on the top tier). The alternatives are as follows: local overloaded wireless rovider with 25 or 35 GB caps and low speeds, cellular broadband with decent speeds but 5GB caps, satellite internet with high latency, low speeds and caps topping out under 25GB.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m as much against disgustingly low bandwidth caps as the next guy, but Lawrence does have competition that&#8217;s not capped (AT&amp;T DSL) and SFB&#8217;s overages, when purchased in blocks, aren&#8217;t too ridiculous (50¢ per GB when you buy a $25 addon).</p>
<p>Plus, 3GB is more than enough for operating system updates and such, plus light web surfing and e-mail, which that tier is made for. 15GB is enough for some more stuff. 50GB can even do online video in some capacity, etc. Though you have to remember that online video is a competitor to SFB&#8217;s cable TV service, so it&#8217;s in their interest to make all online video pay-per-view in some way or other.</p>
<p>As a bit of light at the end of the tunnel, AT&amp;T will eventually launch U-Verse in most of their areas. Granted, they&#8217;ve tested caps as well, but AT&amp;T&#8217;s caps top out at 150GB on U-Verse tiers, which is greatly preferable to 50GB on SUnflower Broadband. AT&amp;T also has some decent speed tiers on U-Verse (12/1.5 Mbit/s or 18/1.5 iif you want to pay a little extra).</p>
<p>In short, if you have decent-speed uncapped competition and don&#8217;t like SUnflower Broadband&#8217;s caps, use the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in Lawrence too, and I just switched from SFB to DSL to avoid the caps. 

So far it hasn&#039;t really bothered me that it&#039;s a little slower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Lawrence too, and I just switched from SFB to DSL to avoid the caps. </p>
<p>So far it hasn&#8217;t really bothered me that it&#8217;s a little slower.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-06-30 - Paul Griffin Petty</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-06-30 - Paul Griffin Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How Bandwidth Caps Hurt Your Mac &amp; What Apple Can Do About It &quot;Apple should lead the way and come out against bandwidth caps. Given that many of the offerings on the iTunes store actually compete with cable TV, Apple should be vigilant that cable companies do not use bandwidth metering as a way to stifle alternative ways of viewing content. Additionally, Apple should add a bandwidth meter to the Airport routers; that way the bandwidth use of entire households can be tracked. If bandwidth caps are inevitable, Apple can arm the consumer with data to monitor their usage and dispute discrepancies with their ISP.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How Bandwidth Caps Hurt Your Mac &amp; What Apple Can Do About It &quot;Apple should lead the way and come out against bandwidth caps. Given that many of the offerings on the iTunes store actually compete with cable TV, Apple should be vigilant that cable companies do not use bandwidth metering as a way to stifle alternative ways of viewing content. Additionally, Apple should add a bandwidth meter to the Airport routers; that way the bandwidth use of entire households can be tracked. If bandwidth caps are inevitable, Apple can arm the consumer with data to monitor their usage and dispute discrepancies with their ISP.&quot; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Teri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I read about bandwidth cap. In my country Bulgaria we have fast internet (speeds up to 5 megabytes per second) for 10 Euro monthly, without limit. Only mobile operators give us limit, but it&#039;s 750 MB for 12 Euro (iPhone tariff).
It&#039;s strange... my country is not rich, but maybe our ISPs will try to mimic USA again in the bad way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I read about bandwidth cap. In my country Bulgaria we have fast internet (speeds up to 5 megabytes per second) for 10 Euro monthly, without limit. Only mobile operators give us limit, but it&#8217;s 750 MB for 12 Euro (iPhone tariff).<br />
It&#8217;s strange&#8230; my country is not rich, but maybe our ISPs will try to mimic USA again in the bad way?</p>
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		<title>By: kayoone</title>
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		<dc:creator>kayoone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, many people, me included, watch alot of IPTV for example. I have boxee running on my HTPC to watch alot of internet stuff on my TV in the living room, given much of that is already in HD that adds up nicely. So yes, 25GB per month would definatly be not enough for me, without using illegal stuff.
Watch 5 apple movie trailers in HD and you already used 1GB of bandwith, leaving you with less than that for the rest of the month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, many people, me included, watch alot of IPTV for example. I have boxee running on my HTPC to watch alot of internet stuff on my TV in the living room, given much of that is already in HD that adds up nicely. So yes, 25GB per month would definatly be not enough for me, without using illegal stuff.<br />
Watch 5 apple movie trailers in HD and you already used 1GB of bandwith, leaving you with less than that for the rest of the month.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My plan - in Oz - is with the company that pretty much sets the cost of access. I get 25G for a month prior to slowdown. Does that bother me? Not much. I generally use around 1/2 of that. I buy a couple of albums from iTunes (but have also swtiched to the same provider as they now sell MP3s which don&#039;t count towards the download limit), download a movie maybe once a month (1-2G) and patch stuff, watch a few YouTube videos and the rest is ad hoc usage. 

When people take issue with capped plans I wonder where the issue lies. You need 250G in a month? So you can watch YouTube in Hi-Def? Hardly anything on there warrants that anyway. So you can torrent movies illegaly? Hardly a reason to demand uncapped plans. If illegal purposes are negated, how much bandwidth can someone actually need? The problem with uncapped plans is that people will simply grab everything and anything without cursory engagement as to whether its needed simply because &#039;it&#039;s free.&#039; 

As per the article, it&#039;s an unsustainable model for everyone to simply expect - automagically - for bandwidth to increase since by its very nature there is no single owner for the internet and hence each company simply premises adequate bandwidth to support their needs as a given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My plan &#8211; in Oz &#8211; is with the company that pretty much sets the cost of access. I get 25G for a month prior to slowdown. Does that bother me? Not much. I generally use around 1/2 of that. I buy a couple of albums from iTunes (but have also swtiched to the same provider as they now sell MP3s which don&#8217;t count towards the download limit), download a movie maybe once a month (1-2G) and patch stuff, watch a few YouTube videos and the rest is ad hoc usage. </p>
<p>When people take issue with capped plans I wonder where the issue lies. You need 250G in a month? So you can watch YouTube in Hi-Def? Hardly anything on there warrants that anyway. So you can torrent movies illegaly? Hardly a reason to demand uncapped plans. If illegal purposes are negated, how much bandwidth can someone actually need? The problem with uncapped plans is that people will simply grab everything and anything without cursory engagement as to whether its needed simply because &#8216;it&#8217;s free.&#8217; </p>
<p>As per the article, it&#8217;s an unsustainable model for everyone to simply expect &#8211; automagically &#8211; for bandwidth to increase since by its very nature there is no single owner for the internet and hence each company simply premises adequate bandwidth to support their needs as a given.</p>
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		<title>By: AScott</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48341</link>
		<dc:creator>AScott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad to point out that as much as Lawrence fights against corporations, having one company control 2 newspapers, TV, and the internet is more than scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad to point out that as much as Lawrence fights against corporations, having one company control 2 newspapers, TV, and the internet is more than scary.</p>
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		<title>By: TWC &#8211; How Bandwidth Caps Hurt Your Mac &#38; What Apple Can Do About It &#124; Meter This!</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48337</link>
		<dc:creator>TWC &#8211; How Bandwidth Caps Hurt Your Mac &#38; What Apple Can Do About It &#124; Meter This!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: max31</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48334</link>
		<dc:creator>max31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Comcast cable, never had a problem with them. 

I probably download a gigabyte a day, mostly because of the video podcasts. Seems like a lot to some, maybe, but that may be less than the use of cable tv viewers. If you leave your tv on all the time, that has to eat up a lot of bandwidth.  Given what I pay to Comcast, it seems I&#039;m getting a good deal. 

The limit Sunflower imposes means they&#039;re stuck in the numbers from the dial-up days. Back when I had a phone modem, I could not conceive using 3 gb a month.</description>
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<p>I probably download a gigabyte a day, mostly because of the video podcasts. Seems like a lot to some, maybe, but that may be less than the use of cable tv viewers. If you leave your tv on all the time, that has to eat up a lot of bandwidth.  Given what I pay to Comcast, it seems I&#8217;m getting a good deal. </p>
<p>The limit Sunflower imposes means they&#8217;re stuck in the numbers from the dial-up days. Back when I had a phone modem, I could not conceive using 3 gb a month.</p>
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		<title>By: kshusker</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48329</link>
		<dc:creator>kshusker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Lawrence also, and while I love Sunflower&#039;s speed, their bandwidth limits are way too restrictive...their service is like getting the keys to a Porsche that does 120 MPH and then being told you are only allowed to drive it 500 feet before you have to stop......Responsibility is great....I mean, you probably make sure you don&#039;t leave the faucet running, but I bet you don&#039;t obsess over every pint of water when you take a shower either! 

Anyway, I don&#039;t want to rag on the local cable ISP, this guy&#039;s blog post was more general then that, about bandwidth caps around the country...if they end up being a necessary evil, they should be set high enough that regular users don&#039;t run into them (Comcast&#039;s 250 GB limit sounds about right for now, or how about a sliding limit that is the 99th percentile of average users)


PS...I just checked Sunflower&#039;s web site, and they bill extra bandwidth at $2.00 per gigabyte, not 25 cents ...  if it was really only 25 cents less people would complain for sure :-)

http://www.sunflowerbroadband.com/internet/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Lawrence also, and while I love Sunflower&#8217;s speed, their bandwidth limits are way too restrictive&#8230;their service is like getting the keys to a Porsche that does 120 MPH and then being told you are only allowed to drive it 500 feet before you have to stop&#8230;&#8230;Responsibility is great&#8230;.I mean, you probably make sure you don&#8217;t leave the faucet running, but I bet you don&#8217;t obsess over every pint of water when you take a shower either! </p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t want to rag on the local cable ISP, this guy&#8217;s blog post was more general then that, about bandwidth caps around the country&#8230;if they end up being a necessary evil, they should be set high enough that regular users don&#8217;t run into them (Comcast&#8217;s 250 GB limit sounds about right for now, or how about a sliding limit that is the 99th percentile of average users)</p>
<p>PS&#8230;I just checked Sunflower&#8217;s web site, and they bill extra bandwidth at $2.00 per gigabyte, not 25 cents &#8230;  if it was really only 25 cents less people would complain for sure :-)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunflowerbroadband.com/internet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sunflowerbroadband.com/internet/</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Thompson</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48319</link>
		<dc:creator>James Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Sunflower Broadband in Lawrence. The 3GB is on their low-end service (1.5 Mbit service for $14.95/mo) and it&#039;s not capped, you can buy extra transfer for .25 a GB. I have the high-end service for $50 which has advertised speeds of 21Mbit (i usually get between 12-19 Mbit) with 50 GB.

There is more to this story those of you who have lived somewhere besides Lawrence, KS might want to know. There are 3 providers here and Sunflower is the only one who meters. I had Sunflower&#039;s mid-grade service ($29.95 for 7 Mbit with 15GB) and I hated the metering so I left and went to Lawrence Freenet ($23.98 mo. for 7 Mbit ) who competes against Sunflower as not having any overage charges. When Freenet&#039;s service worked, my best speeds were 256k and average was 128k.  I found out later Freenet was throttling my speeds until the end of the month whenever I hit 1 GB of transfer in a month. I left them and went to AT&amp;T who speeds on their high-end service ($44.95 for 6 Mbit) were, on average, about half of what I had with Sunflower&#039;s mid-grade service. I ended up back to Sunflower for better pricing and faster speed. I also forced myself to grow up and be responsible with my transfer habit. I monitor my usage on their website and if I have a heavy month of downloads or if I watch a lot of HD on my Macbook I email and have them add GBs to my account. They have never questioned me doing this and they are always friendly in their response.

I moved here from Chicago where I had Comcast’s unlimited, slow, expensive, throttled service. I have to say now that I prefer managing my usage and having Sunflower&#039;s cheap, fast, metered service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Sunflower Broadband in Lawrence. The 3GB is on their low-end service (1.5 Mbit service for $14.95/mo) and it&#8217;s not capped, you can buy extra transfer for .25 a GB. I have the high-end service for $50 which has advertised speeds of 21Mbit (i usually get between 12-19 Mbit) with 50 GB.</p>
<p>There is more to this story those of you who have lived somewhere besides Lawrence, KS might want to know. There are 3 providers here and Sunflower is the only one who meters. I had Sunflower&#8217;s mid-grade service ($29.95 for 7 Mbit with 15GB) and I hated the metering so I left and went to Lawrence Freenet ($23.98 mo. for 7 Mbit ) who competes against Sunflower as not having any overage charges. When Freenet&#8217;s service worked, my best speeds were 256k and average was 128k.  I found out later Freenet was throttling my speeds until the end of the month whenever I hit 1 GB of transfer in a month. I left them and went to AT&amp;T who speeds on their high-end service ($44.95 for 6 Mbit) were, on average, about half of what I had with Sunflower&#8217;s mid-grade service. I ended up back to Sunflower for better pricing and faster speed. I also forced myself to grow up and be responsible with my transfer habit. I monitor my usage on their website and if I have a heavy month of downloads or if I watch a lot of HD on my Macbook I email and have them add GBs to my account. They have never questioned me doing this and they are always friendly in their response.</p>
<p>I moved here from Chicago where I had Comcast’s unlimited, slow, expensive, throttled service. I have to say now that I prefer managing my usage and having Sunflower&#8217;s cheap, fast, metered service.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Fagin</title>
		<link>http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/29/how-bandwidth-caps-hurt-your-mac-what-apple-can-do-about-it/#comment-48316</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Fagin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iiNet in Australia has a cap but only slows you down once you&#039;re over it. They also have &quot;Freezone&quot; which allows you to download iTunes content, OS updates and a bunch of other similar sorts of stuff without it counting towards the download limit.</description>
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