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studioprisoner · 05-15-2008

i'm sooo confused by SVN, i really need to read up on it. I got a lot of resources for it, so i'm not down on that.

What's everyones experiences with making their own SVN on their mac?

**baseballboy828** · 05-15-2008

There was a recent TAB article on using SVN with XCode 3, if that's what you'll be using to manage your code.

Using Subversion with Xcode 3.0 | The Apple Blog

**Shpigford** · 05-15-2008

Are you wanting to actually setup an svn server on your machine? Or just be able to use SVN commands?

studioprisoner · 05-15-2008

well both... i want to set one up so i can learn it more, i've used Hivelogics guide to setting one up. And also interested in running SVN commands through textmate, i've looked at a few hosted SVN places too.

jonkemp · 05-19-2008

My advice is to use Hivelogic's guide to setting up SVN on your machine. Then use the SVN book to learn how to use subversion.

As far as SVN on the Mac, between svnX and command line, command line has been the best for me. svnX is a horrible program and made me hate using subversion. Now that I am learning how to use svn from command line, I appreciate it a lot more and am no longer frustrated trying to use version control.

For SVN hosting, I recommend Beanstalk. They even offer a free version that allows you to have one repository free of charge. If you want more than that though you have to pay, but if you upgrade your plan, the base plan is only $15 a month for up to 10 repositories, which is fair. I've been using it with no problems. I love the program and it is obviously inspired by 37signals and Basecamp with great success, and it integrates with their apps.

**bsh** · 05-21-2008

studioprisoner,

Learning the terminal commands will definitely be to your benefit, but TextMate's support for SVN is also good. As jonkemp said, snvX is pretty crappy.

Also, I have to make sure you're aware of this issue that's been biting Mac users for years: Are you planning on storing any files from iWork, iWeb, iMovie, or iDVD in your SVN repository? If so, I highly recommend you reconsider your choice and choose either Git or Mercurial instead. For an explanation, see iWork hates Subversion, which I wrote earlier this year.

studioprisoner · 05-21-2008

No i wont be using any of those programs. I do have and use TextMate A LOT though, i've installed the subversion bundle. I've looked at Beanstalk as well and will be creating an account in there to try out the SVN

Equin · 05-22-2008

I have all my documents (and all my code) in svn, but I'm thinking about changing to bzr because of the bugs with iWork that bsh mentions..

If you have any questions about svn, be sure to ask, I've used it for years.

jimgagne · 05-24-2008

I've struggled with Subversion on the Mac as well. I found Mike Mason's Pragmatic Version Control Using Subversion and Subversion Version Control (William Nagel) quite helpful. Recently on my Ruby blog I've written about what made Subversion confusing and some tips and pointers on getting started: rubynewbie.jamesgagne.com.
---Jim Gagne---

studioprisoner · 05-25-2008

thanks for the link to your blog!! i'll look at it soon! bed time right now though, ^_^

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studioprisoner Personal Shopping Specialist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 331	i'm sooo confused by SVN, i really need to read up on it. I got a lot of resources for it, so i'm not down on that. What's everyones experiences with making their own SVN on their mac? __________________ Mac Book Pro 15" 2.2Ghz 2GB Ram iPhone 8GB 1.1.4

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studioprisoner Personal Shopping Specialist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 331	well both... i want to set one up so i can learn it more, i've used Hivelogics guide to setting one up. And also interested in running SVN commands through textmate, i've looked at a few hosted SVN places too. __________________ Mac Book Pro 15" 2.2Ghz 2GB Ram iPhone 8GB 1.1.4

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bsh TAB Author Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, California, US Posts: 12	studioprisoner, Learning the terminal commands will definitely be to your benefit, but TextMate's support for SVN is also good. As jonkemp said, snvX is pretty crappy. Also, I have to make sure you're aware of this issue that's been biting Mac users for years: Are you planning on storing any files from iWork, iWeb, iMovie, or iDVD in your SVN repository? If so, I highly recommend you reconsider your choice and choose either Git or Mercurial instead. For an explanation, see iWork hates Subversion, which I wrote earlier this year. __________________ Billy Halsey [email] The Apple Blog / paXóò.com

05-19-2008	#5 (permalink)
jonkemp Operator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1	My advice is to use Hivelogic's guide to setting up SVN on your machine. Then use the SVN book to learn how to use subversion. As far as SVN on the Mac, between svnX and command line, command line has been the best for me. svnX is a horrible program and made me hate using subversion. Now that I am learning how to use svn from command line, I appreciate it a lot more and am no longer frustrated trying to use version control. For SVN hosting, I recommend Beanstalk. They even offer a free version that allows you to have one repository free of charge. If you want more than that though you have to pay, but if you upgrade your plan, the base plan is only $15 a month for up to 10 repositories, which is fair. I've been using it with no problems. I love the program and it is obviously inspired by 37signals and Basecamp with great success, and it integrates with their apps.

05-21-2008	#7 (permalink)
studioprisoner Personal Shopping Specialist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 331	No i wont be using any of those programs. I do have and use TextMate A LOT though, i've installed the subversion bundle. I've looked at Beanstalk as well and will be creating an account in there to try out the SVN __________________ Mac Book Pro 15" 2.2Ghz 2GB Ram iPhone 8GB 1.1.4

05-22-2008	#8 (permalink)
Equin Personal Shopping Specialist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 298	I have all my documents (and all my code) in svn, but I'm thinking about changing to bzr because of the bugs with iWork that bsh mentions.. If you have any questions about svn, be sure to ask, I've used it for years.

05-24-2008	#9 (permalink)
jimgagne Operator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1	I've struggled with Subversion on the Mac as well. I found Mike Mason's Pragmatic Version Control Using Subversion and Subversion Version Control (William Nagel) quite helpful. Recently on my Ruby blog I've written about what made Subversion confusing and some tips and pointers on getting started: rubynewbie.jamesgagne.com. ---Jim Gagne---

05-25-2008	#10 (permalink)
studioprisoner Personal Shopping Specialist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 331	thanks for the link to your blog!! i'll look at it soon! bed time right now though, ^_^ __________________ Mac Book Pro 15" 2.2Ghz 2GB Ram iPhone 8GB 1.1.4

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