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**Shpigford** · 08-01-2007

This thread is for discussion of the recent post concerning TAB no longer supporting full-text feeds in NewsFire.

**baseballboy828** · 08-01-2007

Damn Dave Wantanabe! That been said, I use NewsFire. I'll dump it for NNW if I recieve it as part of a promo, but otherwise I'll just have to head to the site. Dave Wantanabe makes great apps but also is a class A jerk. This isn't the first I've heard where he's been stubborn regarding interaction with his customers.

BruceStewart · 08-01-2007

I'm confused. I'm a happy NewsFire user, and I already see ads at the bottom of some of my feeds (like Techcrunch, for example). Why can't you do what they are doing?

lightningrod220 · 08-01-2007

I'm actually very okay with this. The developer of NewsFire is known for causing trouble, to put it mildly.

stantheman198 · 08-01-2007

@baseballboy828 you should just drop the dough for NNW it is worth it.

**Shpigford** · 08-01-2007

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Originally Posted by BruceStewart

I'm confused. I'm a happy NewsFire user, and I already see ads at the bottom of some of my feeds (like Techcrunch, for example). Why can't you do what they are doing?

We use FeedBurner's ad network to deliver ads in our RSS feed (as do a lot of blog owners) and NewsFire directly blocks those and Google AdSense' feed ads. TechCrunch doesn't use FeedBurner to sell their ads.

I can't do what they are doing because I'm not represented by their ad network.

In addition to that, NewsFire could easily start blocking those as well.

This isn't really a black/white issue of "I'm ticked because they're blocking my ads." To me it's an issue of a developer making a specific point to rob business owners of the way they support themselves...similar to if people pirated his software. He just doesn't see it that way.

**baseballboy828** · 08-01-2007

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Originally Posted by stantheman198

@baseballboy828 you should just drop the dough for NNW it is worth it.

Yea I know. I am just trying to break myself of buying too much software. Maybe soon though.

**beley** · 08-01-2007

Man, this makes me wish I didn't buy NewsFire now... anyone have any recommendations for good feed readers for OSX?

Huuuze · 08-01-2007

Hey Josh. Long time reader, first time poster.

While I can appreciate your circumstance (I own and operate a website as well), I don't see this as a reasonable solution. For instance, when I visit TAB using Firefox, I have a very common ad blocking extension running (Ad Block Plus). As such, I don't see any of the ads on your homepage.

Does that mean you should ban Firefox as well? Of course not. And the same rule should apply to NewsFire users.

By blocking the full-text RSS feed, what are you really gaining? Is the cost savings significant or are you simply "sending a message"?

Considering there are many Apple RSS feeds, I'm more likely to use those rather than switch RSS readers (especially when I paid for NewsFire and feeds are free). Don't drive away loyal readers simply because they can't (and often times, don't want to) see advertisements.

thame · 08-01-2007

I'm a NewsFire user, but I'm cool with this change. I usually like to read articles inside their site anyway.

To answer Huuuze's question, I think the problem is that you chose to install AdBlock, and while it leads to the same end, it's different from NewsFire which turns off ads by default and doesn't let user's change it.

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Huuuze Operator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7	Hey Josh. Long time reader, first time poster. While I can appreciate your circumstance (I own and operate a website as well), I don't see this as a reasonable solution. For instance, when I visit TAB using Firefox, I have a very common ad blocking extension running (Ad Block Plus). As such, I don't see any of the ads on your homepage. Does that mean you should ban Firefox as well? Of course not. And the same rule should apply to NewsFire users. By blocking the full-text RSS feed, what are you really gaining? Is the cost savings significant or are you simply "sending a message"? Considering there are many Apple RSS feeds, I'm more likely to use those rather than switch RSS readers (especially when I paid for NewsFire and feeds are free). Don't drive away loyal readers simply because they can't (and often times, don't want to) see advertisements. Last edited by Huuuze; 08-01-2007 at 02:25 PM. Reason: Removed bit about TechCrunch. Someone posted it while I was writing my post.

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BruceStewart Operator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1	I'm confused. I'm a happy NewsFire user, and I already see ads at the bottom of some of my feeds (like Techcrunch, for example). Why can't you do what they are doing?

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lightningrod220 Operator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1	I'm actually very okay with this. The developer of NewsFire is known for causing trouble, to put it mildly.

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stantheman198 Operator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 8	@baseballboy828 you should just drop the dough for NNW it is worth it.

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thame Operator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2	I'm a NewsFire user, but I'm cool with this change. I usually like to read articles inside their site anyway. To answer Huuuze's question, I think the problem is that you chose to install AdBlock, and while it leads to the same end, it's different from NewsFire which turns off ads by default and doesn't let user's change it.

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